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NYT finally admits that Putin's recent proposal is the most realistic scenario for how this war will pan out. (www.nytimes.com)
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Mr. Putin is already planning for victory. His latest so-called peace proposal — in which Russia keeps occupied territory and Ukraine is banned from joining NATO — was dismissed as propaganda by many Western leaders. But it is, in fact, the most realistic scenario for how this war will pan out.

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[-] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 3 months ago

But that loss will be mitigated by the remarkable thwarting of Mr. Putin’s original plan to take over Kyiv and destroy Ukraine as a nation.

What? That was never the stated objective. The whole three days to Kiev line didn't from Russia either. Russia never wanted to destroy Ukraine as a nation, though that may very well be the functional result thanks to NATO.

Imagine trying to spin "our opponent didn't destroy our capital!" as a victory when they weren't even trying to do that.

[-] l0tusc0bra@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 3 months ago

This is the exact cope I've been expecting for years. I think part of the point of the narrative of Putin the Conqueror introduced back in 2022 was so that when they lost they could claim they prevented him from achieving his objectives (even though he's clearly going to get everything he said he wanted on day 1 lmao)

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