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[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Nope. The US just has that much influence.

[-] 4lan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We essentially control Australia, it's fucking weird.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You know countries with extradition agreements can request extraditions in the other direction, as well?

If an american does a crime in Australia, but makes it back to the states, Australias government can also go "yeah so uuuh that guy killed a dude over here, gonna need him back for trial".

It's what makes it less likely people will just do crime all over other countries and then return home to escape punishment.

[-] 4lan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Right I was speaking about more than just extradition. https://youtu.be/ZOV8UeLkoAw

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

So if I seed a bunch of Australian media to a ratio of 10,000, Uncle Sam can ship me off to Australia to be tried for crimes where my Constitutional rights don't apply?

Cool.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Technically yes.

But I wasn't commenting on whether this given situation, or whether modern copyright laws, are reasonable.

In this case the extradition is extending the reach of shitty laws, but that is not an arguement against extraditions being a thing.

They are a good thing. They allow for laws to reach across borders, because otherwise a state of anarchy would exist between countries, where all crime would be fair game, as long as you only victimized foreigners. That would be extremely fucked.

It's why contries like Russia and India have online scam industries, because there exists no international agreement that would enforce some consequences for robbing people on the other side of the world.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

In this case the extradition is extending the reach of shitty laws, but that is not an arguement against extraditions being a thing.

Of course it is. It's why Germany doesn't extradite citizens: You're prosecuted in Germany, instead. Exception are other EU countries which are assumed to have sane laws, also, you have recourse to the ECHR while the US has plenty of people gleefully arguing that punishments can be cruel or unusual, they just can't be both at the same time.

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