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Why use MBin instead of Lemmy? (fedia.io)

submitted 3 months ago by Treedrake@fedia.io to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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I actually started on Kbin.social, but then it got shut down, Kbin died and now fedia.io seems to be the largest one running MBin. I like the interface on MBin and I guess it's good to have a diverse fediverse with different services, but at the same time, why use mbin when everyone congregates on lemmy instances? The local magazines on fedia are for the most part, quite dead, when compared to lemmy collections. In the end I feel like there aren't enough people to go around to support many more services like MBin and Piefed.

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[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

What ultimately caused kbin to shut down?

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Single developer prioritised his life over supporting an increasingly complex project, I think

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 months ago

He had some health issues iirc, and frankly people got really pushy about a thing they don't even pay for. I don't blame him for stopping development.

[-] clb92@feddit.dk 14 points 3 months ago

and frankly people got really pushy about a thing they don’t even pay for

He doesn't owe anyone anything, and he can decide to run his open source project just as he pleases, but it could have gone so much better. People are mostly just disappointed, I feel like.

[-] wjrii@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

I mean yes, in a certain sense mbin is exactly how open source is supposed to work when things go sideways: fork the code, change the name, leverage the original work, leave Ernest in peace, whatever he's dealing with.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

The first half of what you said is the important bit, to me. He owed no one anything, and I just remember seeing some comments from people that couldn't comprehend that. Entitlement is strong on the internet imho.

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 10 points 3 months ago

It seems like his health condition got bad enough that he quite literally prioritised his life.

I hope he's well.

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

What I saw over there was a large portion of his community pleading with him to delegate administrative tasks to the community, as it became increasingly clear the website was becoming too much for a single guy to manage (he was the only moderator of like 30+ communities that were full to bursting with spam, as well as the sole site admin). He never approved the many applications to help moderate, and said he was extremely slow to trust others, so never appointed a second admin, and instead just continued to silently work on the codebase as the site became unusable from spam.

I think his extreme distrust and desire to do everything himself combined with his medical issues led to extreme burnout, and ultimately its downfall.

[-] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean... Maybe some exceptions, but I don't feel like the community was being too pushy.

Stuff happens in life, people get that, but I don't feel like it's too much to ask for an update about what's going on more than once every other month and while we appreciate him trying to handle everything, when he can't, there needs to be some effort at creating a backup plan. And... then finally when people stepped up to offer to help him, he didn't appreciate them, ignored their efforts and pushed them out (which is why we have mbin).