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[-] MasterObee@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Rent is inherently predatory

No it's not. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's inherently predatory.

I have to move to a city for 6 months, should I have to buy a house and sell it during that time? I need to rent, it gives me the flexibility without having to shell out capital or get in debt to live.

As with everything, it can be bad, especially when the government restricts building of houses so much, but my buddy buying a house, fixing it up and renting it out isn't malicious.

What's your alternative to renting? Government owns all houses and gives them out for people to live in for free?

[-] dfc09@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

My biggest head scratcher now that I've bought a house is "huh, my mortgage is locked in now, no matter what the market does... Why did rent keep going up if my landlord's mortgages were locked in?"

I honestly don't have a good answer, I could be looking at something perfectly explainable. But to me it seemed like they raised rent not because costs went up, but because they could. Why not. Everybody else is doing it.

[-] Morcyphr@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

Mortgages are locked in. Taxes, insurance, utilities, maintenance/upkeep are not. All of those things have increased since I bought my house a year ago. Rental properties experience the same thing.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

My landlord's taxes went down, I pay for utilities, not sure about insurance, as for upkeep I will let you know when I see that happening.

[-] Morcyphr@lemmy.one -3 points 2 years ago

Property taxes went down? I doubt that. As far as upkeep, if the furnace goes out, who pays for that? The property owner. That's what I meant.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

We got federal money for Covid and the commerical sector is doing well. Pretty sure the furnace is fine, but it isn't like I have lived here for multiple years.

[-] MasterObee@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

My biggest head scratcher now that I’ve bought a house is “huh, my mortgage is locked in now, no matter what the market does… Why did rent keep going up if my landlord’s mortgages were locked in?”

Property taxes, market rate, costs to repair and maintain, interest rates increasing. How much money, beyond your mortgage, have you spend on your house since you moved in?

[-] dfc09@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Less than my apartment ever was 😜

And what's especially nice is everything I buy and repair goes to me, belongs to me.

Sure I had to buy a washer and dryer, lawn mower, more furniture, etc, but that's all mine forever.

The only cost that's higher at my house than my much smaller apartment is utilities.

[-] MasterObee@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Less than my apartment ever was 😜

How much?

[-] dfc09@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

A few hundred a month less. I'm not suddenly drowning in money, obviously, but it's interesting paying less for much more, and that money actually benefitting my net worth vs being flushed down the toilet

[-] MasterObee@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

See, you can't even answer a simple question.

You weren't actually asking questions to gain knowledge, you just want to hide the facts so it looks like you're right. Home ownership is expensive, and for most people, isn't ideal, renting is a huge need on our society so I don't have to give up 50k cash right now, so I don't have to pay 15k/yr in property taxes, a 20k water heater bill randomly and I can move next money if I want to. You being willingly ignorant to those don't change the facts.

[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I would rather pay the cost of service to the government than my landlord's mortgage

[-] Morcyphr@lemmy.one -2 points 2 years ago

Just curious, why? What difference would it make for you? Many of these mortgages are government funded anyway. I don't rent anymore but my government is far more inept and corrupt than any landlord I've ever dealt with. Just my experience though.

[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

What difference would it make for you?

Well, paying an at-cost price would mean it is inherently cheaper as the government wouldn't be trying to turn a profit, merely charge an amount that compensates for upkeep.

Many of these mortgages are government funded anyway.

But is still building equity for a private individual.

my government is far more inept and corrupt than any landlord I’ve ever dealt with

I have a say in my government though, at least theoretically. I think housing (at least primary housing) shouldn't be a for-profit industry, so I advocate against it via my government.

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