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Voters over 70 are backing Harris over Trump, 51 to 48 percent, Emerson College poll finds

A new poll shows some baby boomers and members of the Silent Generation are switching allegiances from former President Donald Trump to Vice President Kamala Harris. 

The Emerson College poll released Thursday  shows voters over 70 backing Harris over Trump 51 to 48 percent. That’s a small but positive shift for Harris, as last month, 50 percent of the group supported Trump while 48 percent backed President Joe Biden, who dropped out of the race and endorsed Harris last month.

The group includes some baby boomers, who were born between 1946 and 1964, and the Silent Generation, born between 1925 and 1945.

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[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

The mentality that protests are effective?

Please do quote where I said that. I never did and never would. Because it's been very effective in my state. We lost an elected Pro Palestinian Congress person. Now I would say that has as much or more to do with them having been a week candidate in the first place. But you cannot argue that that is not an effect.

No the mentality I spoke of was the one you so elegantly demonstrated just now. A complete lack of introspection, or genuinely trying to engage with those that disagree. Arguing past people with strawmen. Assuming them to be, and making them the enemy and not a potential ally.

Everything we do has an opportunity cost. We can't do "everything" we have to pick and choose where our attention and effort goes. As an anarchist I believed protesting is generally good and should be disruptive. And that everyone is free to decide where and how they do it. I'm also free to point out the issues with it. But I can be honest and acknowledge that some protesting and actions are better and more effective. Which certain people can't.

I like the fantasy that all Americans are secret hard core leftists. They aren't unfortunately. Most barely approach center. And that all protest is equally effective and good. It's not either.

The people screaming at presidential candidates. Haven't accomplished anything. They can show no causation between their efforts and Biden stepping down. The fact that he was replaced not with a better more Palestine friendly candidate. But someone from his own administration. His own VP and current running mate. Really speaks to the opposite. That they are still ignoring a lot of these protests.

And why wouldn't they? This model of protesting is a lot like protesting Coca-Cola still operating in israel. By standing out front by the Pepsi Bottling plant and yelling at the people inside. It is entirely possible that Coca-Cola Executives might see it and decide that maybe they should stop just so they don't have to deal with that themselves someday. Or they might just ignore it. Which as long as they're making money would be the most likely outcome.

The president at best has leeway to choose how to implement congress's plans where it is not specified. But Congress can still rebuke and override the president at any point they want beyond being stopped by the Supreme Court. Pick out the best profalestinian Advocate you can think of. And now assume they somehow got elected to the office of president. As president realistically they would have a very little influence or control over us aid to Israel. And will be overridden in a heartbeat by our Congress full of Zionist Pro Israeli members.

Because congress, the thing we've largely been ignoring. Has always been the problem. Not specifically the president. Yes Biden should hold Israel's feet to the fire as much as he can. He should have done better. And I have hope that Harris will do better. But it was always for not if we didn't fix Congress. And I get it. People hate being told that their efforts were misguided and ineffective. Worse to feel like or find out that they have been manipulated. But it's really sad to see so many self-professed people on the left behaving like magats. Unable to accept criticism and doubling down irrationally.

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 months ago

Please do quote where I said that. I never did and never would.

how bout i quote this tirade?

The people screaming at presidential candidates. Haven’t accomplished anything.

This is just more proof you need to speak less and read more. Fuck son, at least proofread your own damn comments so i don't have to struggle like this

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

That's talking about their protest specifically. Not protest in general. So just as I thought you were being disingenuous.

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

disengenous huh?

you little shit

i could go line by line through our interactions and point out how disingenous most of your words are, or even how you deny my accusations and prove me right in the same comment, like the one you just made... but the only thing i'd ever receive from you is wild unhinged wordsalad, and that is not a good value-return for my investment of time. so here's what we're gonna do.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Name calling. Predictable.

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