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[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 41 points 2 months ago

yeah nobody has gotten a proper raise over last few years so people taking matters into their own hands.

boomers are huffing their own farts thinking we should just keep working for them few more years while they exit

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

You've got it wrong! Boomers are actually the number one generation currently ENTERING the workforce. I suspect that it's people who never prepared for retirement taking minimum wage jobs.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -2 points 2 months ago

The boomers who are holding wages down are old clowns looting the companies... not the same boomer

But either way, boomers are net negative for the labour force.

Do you got some numbers to back your claim that they are re-entering he work force at rate greater than they are exiting?

How are they out entering gen-z who is graduating college at like 2 millie per year?

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

An article came by a month or so ago but I’m sadly unable to find it. The argument was that boomers left and are now re-entering the workforce at higher numbers than Gen Z is currently doing.

[-] pdxfed@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I'm reading Work, Retire, Repeat currently and you're correct...only they arent so much reentering as not leaving. Many start claiming SS as soon as they can for extra money while they work...only they shoot themselves in the foot by not waiting longer to claim much higher (8%/year) benefits. Waiting until 70 nets you 96%(!) higher benefits. The rich who don't actually need the extra 8% largely benefit, and because they live longer, collect it for longer. The poor get screwed again, which of course aligns with minorities and women being the most affected.

This started in the 80s when corporations took advantage of Regan's policy to shed pensions and instead, ask financially illiterate Joe's and Janes to manage stock accounts and decide how much they should save. The results were predictable. There have been winners though, corporations (much cheaper 401ks), and financial service industry that sprang up to ~support~ pillage uninformed retirees trying to save money to find their retirement for the first time. Regan admin also raised the retirement age to 67 for Social Security in 1983. This represents a permanent 13% decrease in benefits for Americans as it's 13% less time on average they'll collect based on mortality rates

There has been a large media gull-court press to try to make working longer because:

  1. Government knows citizens aren't saving enough and without pensions can't manage retirement funds. They are put in power by lobbiests that prevent changes to the 401k structure and repairing social security.

  2. Corporations love older workers; they have fewer options despite the magazine covers showing laughing, healthy retirees on their laptop overlooking their vineyard. In reality they are working physically and mentally taxing jobs no one else will, and this also suppresses wages for younger workers. This is another reason why corporations lobby like hell against national healthcare...TONS of folks would stop working or work much less if they could see a doctor without bankrupting themselves, but can't until they are eligible for Medicare.

  3. Financial services want that money. Asset management, trade fees, expense ratios, "financial advisors" instead of fiduciaries so much easier to bully folks when they are on their own or in small groups. National programs have buying power and muscles in the marketplace, bad for worthless leeches.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 2 months ago

was this something from cnbc type article?

they do a lot FUD on employment topics.

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