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“Something has gone seriously wrong,” dual-boot systems warn after Microsoft update (arstechnica.com)

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[-] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 33 points 3 months ago

I stopped trying to dual boot entirely with all the problems it caused me. I'm surprised the community universally seems to recommend dual booting as an easy to setup option for beginners.

[-] krigo666@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Easiest way to dual boot is 2 disks, with Linux and grub installed on 2nd disk, and BIOS set to boot to 2nd disk. That way Winblows thinks it is alone in the 1st disk of the system.

Even so had an issue a couple years back that Winblows messed up its own loader, by not placing the boot files in the reserved hidden partition but then configuring the boot as if it did... facepalm Took me a morning of trial and error figuring how Winblows boot to fix it...

Winblows is a cancer, but unfortunately it still is necessary for some gaming.

[-] ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Only for the kind of gaming that is itself a cancer: the one that wants to install a rootkit "anticheat" on your system.

I have a steam deck since the launch of the device and even stuff like old C&C games run on it. Hell, the little guy is able to run even FF16!

Edit: typo

[-] TipRing@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I have had a hell of a time trying to get Shadow Empire running. It's the only title I have found that doesn't have kernel-level anticheat that doesn't work on Linux.

[-] ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place 2 points 3 months ago

Haven't tried it myself, but people report they are getting it running following some steps in its protonDB page

[-] szczuroarturo@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago

There are still some obscure games that dont work ( or are hard enough to setup that i couldnt do it ) on linux regardless of anticheat. Sins of solar empire and knights and mechants in my case were particulary problematic if i remember correctly.

[-] krigo666@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I tried running the games that I need Windork for some time ago, but got fed up tweaking the stuff. I'll give it a try soon.

Btw, I only do PC gaming, no consoles or mobile.

[-] ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place 3 points 3 months ago

My main gaming device is now a steam deck. I've run on it mostly everything I'm interested in. I reckon I don't like competitive games, so I never tried lol or Fortnite or CoD or anything of the likes, but the deck at home is running from Genshin impact to Final Fantasy 14. No man's sky, assassin's creed odyssey, ff16 demo, and every indie I wanted to play.

And except for games like Genshin impact or honkai star rail (not for me but for my SO) which needed a different launcher and some small tweaking, the rest of the games have been running "out of the box", doing no tweaking at all.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

You can do it with a partitioned single disk too. Just use different boot sector partitions for each OS, and don't use a boot manager. Just set Linux as the default boot, and use the BIOS boot options if you want to boot into Windows.

I actually logged into Windows for the first time in 3 years a couple nights ago. I couldn't get Arch to recognize my Kindle, so I needed to verify it was a hardware issue, and not a software issue. Booted into Windows, verified it wasn't recognized, logged out. Fuck those bajillion updates it wants to install. I'm not installing them, especially since it'll just try to trick me into installing Windows 11 again. It can stay 3, 6, or infinity years out of date for all I care. I'm never going to use it for long enough for security to be an issue.

Anyways, I digress. Use separate boot sectors and a single partitioned drive is adequate.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 months ago

Yup

This is shit. But dual booting (on the same drive) has not been viable for decades. It inevitably becomes a mess. Just have windows on one drive and Linux on another if you can't fully switch to Linux.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

False. I've been using the same drive for years without issues. Just make sure you use separate boot sectors, and handle which OS boots through the BIOS boot manager, not some linked boot manager.

[-] taaz@biglemmowski.win 6 points 3 months ago

Optimally we wouldn't I think but it usually boils down to being the lesser evil.

[-] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah, dual booting on a single drive causes more harm than good. It's very annoying, and I've seen people think it's Linux's fault, saying "I can boot into Windows just fine." It's like saying a bully is the better kid since he never has dirty clothes.