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[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 31 points 2 months ago

forcing that on someone can only be justified if they are literally at home fighting off an invading force.

Empire propaganda must be real good if this commenter has to say this out loud

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

It's not the propaganda that's good, SunZu.

It's the poverty. Tens of millions of young people in this country have no other way out of debt or to move upward economically.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It IS the propaganda that makes people decide that the military is a way out of poverty and not just another trap OF poverty. If there weren't recruiters in every poor neighbourhood's school, people might decide that joining a mission or Greenpeace or digging wells in Africa for a charity is their "only way" out of poverty.

[-] PiJiNWiNg@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

I have to disagree a little bit, as, at least in the US, there are some really great perks associated with miltary service. GI bill and VA home loans are some of the bigger perks, but theres plenty of smaller perks as well (if you know where to look).

Dont get me wrong, these benefits shouldn't have to be "earned", but one doesnt necessarily have to put themselves in harms way (or sacrifice their morals) to get those benefits. For example, I enlisted in the Coast Guard Reserve at 18 and picked IT as my "rate". I often joke that i picked the "lowest form" of miltary service, but Bush's illegal war in Afghanistan was in full swing at the time and I wanted nothing to do with it, so I justified my choice with, "I'd rather help save people, then help kill people."

As i joined the reserves, i was able to skip the otherwise mandatory time in service requirements for IT school, and went right after bootcamp. After training, i got stationed with my permanent reserve unit in my home town. Less then a month later i secured an entry level IT job, and have been in the industry ever since. A few years after that, I bought my first house with a VA loan.

While i was in, my service obligation was ludicrously easy. One weekend a month I'd shave and cut my hair, throw on a uniform, and do the same job I'd been doing in my civilian life for the weekend (when there was work to do anyway, we fucked off A LOT). Further, working in both private sector and government IT gave me some really useful perspective that helped me accelerate both my civilian and government careers.

Last thing ill mention is that, presumably due to my ADD, I tend to excel in a job in the first couple years, but eventually get bored and start slackin. CG deployments (at least for IT folks), were very rarely mandatory, but there was usually enough going on that if you wanted to deploy, you just had to say so. Because of this, if i started to feel bored at my civilian role, I'd just throw my name in the hat for a set of orders (ranging from 2-12 months in duration), travel the country on the governmwnt dime, work on some cool shit, maybe learn something, then go back to my civilian job feeling rejuvinated and wanting to apply what i learned. In case you dont know, employers are federally required to keep your position available for when you return (for up to 5 years). Also, depending on the orders, you'd often make more money then active duty folks doing the same job because you'd receive BAH to pay your rent/mortgage at home, while also receiving per diem based on the location of your orders.

Anyway, not trying to sound like a recruiter, but you dont have to sell your soul to get those bennies.

[-] ksdhf@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 months ago

So you would rather assist with war crimes/genocide than live in poverty? I would rather serve crack than serve the empire.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Thank you for adding information to my reply.

[-] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 2 points 2 months ago

Sunny top secret art of war zeroth rule: Don’t get in a war idiot.

this post was submitted on 22 Aug 2024
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