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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml to c/technology@beehaw.org

I know these are currently out of fashion but I'm still thankful they exist.

Let's remind ourselves of devices that use(d) these standardized batteries:

  • Toys
  • Digital cameras
  • Torches
  • Gadgets like fans
  • Wireless keyboards
  • TV remotes

Thanks to having a standardized system of batteries,

  • You can use the same battery across several devices. This is a no brainer but it's very practical.
  • Batteries can charge quicker thanks to being put in a dedicated charger and not being limited by USB cables. (But yes I concede that USB has been updated for faster charging over the years)
  • Devices don't have down time when their battery is charging. To charge, the battery is removed from the device and can immediately be replaced with a fresh one.
  • You'll never have to trash a device due to an expired battery. Just buy a replacement. And building on this...
  • Any improvements in future battery technology can be retro-fitted into your existing devices. And there is a high incentive for future improvement, because...
  • An accessible (due to easy replacement) and large (due to many devices) battery market is very attractive to competition.

If you look at the pros I listed, they all happen to be things that would be very useful for electric cars. So I think it would aid the adoption of electric cars if their batteries were standardized too.

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[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Couldn't it theoretically be fixed with a voltage regulator?

[-] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Don't they need a circuit protection to not over-discharge lithium batteries? Most AA devices would suck all the juice from the battery until it stops working.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

Yes.

The other problem with lithium batteries like 18650s is that they need to be handled with care so manufacturers don't want users swapping them in and out like AA/AAA. This is why they build them into devices and have you charge them through a regulated port.

[-] lloram239@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Also there are numerous different versions and sizes of 18650, some come with protection circuit, some don't, some have flat top, some have button top, and whatever type you end up with might or might not fit your device. Makes the whole situation quite confusing for the average user.

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Well there aren't really different sizes of 18650s, if you chance the size it's no longer an 18650.

The flat vs button top issue can be annoying though

[-] lloram239@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

18650 with protection circuit are around 69mm in length instead of 65mm.

[-] anlumo@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

The problem with those is that the device loses the ability to sense the charge status of the battery, since the voltage remains the same until it’s empty.

[-] abhibeckert@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

NiMH AA's have the same problem.

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