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Oh no that's so embarrassing! Fucking Elon going to milk that for all its worth.
The insanity of Elon haters is beyond me..
I'm sorry I have to ask, but, serious or kidding?
Serious. Even if people don't say it aloud, there are ones practically hoping for Tesla FSD to fail and kill someone, Neuralink recipient to die of complications or the Crew Dragon module to fail and kill the astronauts only so that they can say "I told you so" and then keep shitting on Elon. Any rational person would hope for these companies to succeed despite who the CEO is because it'll benefit all of us on the long run.
Oh seriously, f right off. Nobody wants Tesla drivers to die, they just want Musk accountable for killing the ones that died because they believed his constant lies in the videos he released and speeches he gave that "Autopilot" / "Full Self Driving" and "ROBOTAXIS ARE COMING" meant that the cars actually can drive themselves.
Tesla only succeeded due to the hard work and innovation of its two ACTUAL founders. Ever since Elon did his cuckoo bird routine and pushed them out of the nest, Tesla has fallen behind all other car manufacturers, and have only managed to stay afloat trading carbon credits for government cash. Instead of releasing a low to mid-priced model to compete, he squeezed out the cyberturd. And SpaceX is going to ruin any chance of humans getting off this planet with Starlink. In 6 months, Starlink satellites had to make 25,000 collision-avoidance maneuvers, and they are on an exponential curve. It's not if, but when they screw up and start the beginning of the Kessler syndrome.
And Starship is the biggest government grift of them all. That PoS will never make it to the moon, much less Mars. It's going to end up just like the Hyperloop.
Elon is a con-artist whose only talent is constant market manipulation, insider trading, and fooling the gullible.
If every Starlink satellite shattered into the most dangerously-sized pieces simultaneously, it would only affect our access to space for 5 to 10 years. It would perhaps be bad enough to put manned missions on the back burner during that time period, and would certainly cause major issues for terrestrial astronomy, but it wouldn't cause much harm to the space program overall. If they were in a higher orbit, it would definitely be a concern.
I don't get people like you that start their rant by telling me to fuck off and then expect me to continue reading any further.
This is a hilariously solid take.
Because of the CEO it will NOT benefit us all. Just think of starlink and Ukraine as a tiny example.
Did Elon Musk Turn Off Starlink Access in Crimea To Disrupt Ukrainian Attack?
Yikes, a major war you say? The fact that Ukraine doesn't have full ability to use starlink in whatever fashion they feel is necessary to repel the invaders of their nation (crimea is part of Ukraine) proves that Elon musk is aligned with money, not morals, not human rights, just fucking $$$. linking that article proving musk personally ensured starlink would not help Ukraine, and thinking that was a good thing? He's attempting to incite a civil war in the UK, attempting to influence the US election via twitter, and he's a really just a silver spoon apartheid slave jewel mine produced asshole and here you are saying "he's a necessary evil", yeah fucking right ignoramus.
Those are not my words. Not even Elon's. Those are the words of the author of Elon's biography, Walter Isaacson. What Elon said is:
The reason Ukraine can't use Starlink in Russia (or occupied territories) is because Starlink is not enabled there due to US sanctions to Russia. Enabling it would be literally illegal for him to do. He also added later that had he been contacted by US officials and told to enable it, he would have, but they didn't.
Thanks, didn't know that!
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It’s rare to see someone value truth over pride. Kudos to you.
Fuck Elon musk fuck your attempted astroturfing.
So according to you, I am an astroturfing bot. Why is that?
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I am sorry, I didn't understand that. Could you rephrase your query?
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You do realise you just posted this under a comment that is doing the exact opposite and assuming SpaceX's success, right?
Assuming success and hoping for the contrary are not in conflict with eachother
Yeah it's funny to watch, these are companies full of literally the best educated and most dedicated people using the most upto date tools and are regulated by incredibly serious and well organized bodies.
Yet everything they do is terrible and broken because they're owned by Elon, a man I'm repeatedly told is a feckless layabout who does nothing but run his yap on Twitter...
The reality is people are experiencing reality like reality TV, they know Elon as a personality and they dislike his personality and since there's only a cast of about half a dozen characters he's the bad guy and as marvel movies teach us bad guys are ontological evil and everything they're involved in is awful...
Reality is the other CEOs are often weird too, the general population of workers is full of weird people - many with totally trash opinions... yes it sucks that distasteful people are involved in good things or people with some bad opinions also have some good opinions or agree with sensible ideas but that is how reality works. When people act like anything Elon is involved in can only be bad it just makes it clear they don't live in reality, they live in ideology.
You're not going to win here. The level of hateness is so great they will deny his accomplishments. I guess that's the reality of life when are not successful enough - just find the bad guy to hate.
One thing for sure, however much hateness they have on him, they will never be able to achieve what this 'phony' Elon have achieved. The best these demographic can do is hate. they are not able to accomplish much anyway. So let them be.
Oh such great accomplishments like using his money to hire actually talented engineers then take all the credit same as Edison.
"hate" is already a noun (in addition to being a verb). The "ness" suffix is superfluous.
thx, point noted. I am not a native speaker btw.