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Israel attacks southern Lebanon, Hezbollah launches rockets at Israel
(www.aljazeera.com)
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Let's skip the tit for tat and jump straight to the end of this chain of violence begetting violence eh? Israel establishes a colony and begins the violent displacement of local native palastinians. There, we did it. If your "well he did it first" form of moral judgement holds true then we should see a fun shift in attitude's.
But it never was about that really?
Palastinians spent 80 years getting slaughtered. I'd prefer if no one was getting slaughtered instead of my preferred racial group you fucking monster.
Equating what I'm saying to a call for the genocide machine to turn in reverse rather than stopping it all together is a self report brother. You cannot imagine peace. You just see this as a fight to extinction. You support the genocide.
Here's a fun history fact. One time we almost had peace. Palastinians agreed to it. Israel agreed to it. Things were looking up.
And then genocidal Israeli terrorists assassinated their own prime minister to continue the oppression.
Funny that.
Brother, if I roll up to your house. Beat the shit out of you, lock you in the basement and then say "okay. Now that your in the basement we should stop fighting" are you going to be cool with that?
It's not peace when you run apartheid on palastinians in your country and constantly colonize and push out palastinians not in your country.
I want you to think about a similar situation. United states and Native Americans. Do you think America was in the right to go into native villages and burn and slaughter them because some of the natives would terror attack American colonists? Do you sympathize with the natives who went and terrorized American colonists who were stealing their land?
It's pretty universally accepted at this point that America committed genocide against the native Americans and the Israeli treatment of palastinians is historically very similar in both motive, methods and excuses.
You focus so hard on what the side with no power, no authority does when backed into a corner and ignore the slaughter that they have withstood for 80 fucking years.
What is it to you that makes you so unwilling to have sympathy? Skin color? Language? Religion? Because you were born in a country that geo politically backs one side so that's your team now?
If I took this sitch, removed all the names you knew and just told the story of 2 groups of indistinct humans, I guarantee you wouldn't be picking the side of isreal. No moral person could.
What's even more interesting is that unless your an Israeli trying to defend your states genocide to feel less bad about the blood you stand on, you ain't even getting anything out of it. At least the genocidal colonists who push the frontier and steal palastinians homes get a home out of it. What do you get? You get to be the stain of a history book. The question high schoolers ask 200 years from now "why did anyone support ~~Hitler killing all the Jewish folk~~ isreal killing all the palastinians?" And the history teacher will have to answer "because no one is immune from propaganda"
Man, you should really look up how native attacks on settlers went if you think they were somehow tame in comparison. Interesting that, you never spent time to focus on the crimes and atrocities committed by the natives to the extent that you don't even know how brutal it was. Interesting that. Thanks for proving my point on that front.
"At some point they have to accept that" Why? That's some might makes right moral philosophy right there. Just completely dropped a facade of morality and just went with "Israel has a monopoly on violence, thus palastinians deserve to lose"
Equal rights my ass, https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/
Funnily enough, this is also similar to the American and native American relationship. Legally natives became "citizens" in 1928 and thus had access to "equal rights" but didn't actually fully get the right to vote till 1948, and that was only when they legally got it.
All this to say, you know what's better than giving natives rights to vote in the nation we stole from them? Giving it back. Oh it'd be hard and economically devastating? Should of thought about that before stealing the fucking land. Hell to pay and we still make the natives pay for it.
Antisemitic blood libel lol. Now your just spitting insults. Israel don't like being compared to Hitler and his crimes? Maybe don't repeat them. Never Again meant Never again. Ever. To anyone. Notice how I'm not saying "the Jews" in relation to the state of Israel? Because Israel isn't a monolith of jewdom. It ain't the culture, it ain't the religion, it ain't the race. It doesn't own that identity no matter how much they want to cover themselves in it. It's a state, one which has made these same crimes regardless who's in charge.
Oh you view the settlements in the West Bank as bad? Remember it's been happening like that for 80 mother fucking years. State sponsored and all. Pushing palastinians further and further. To the frontiers. Killing those who resist and you wonder why palastinians would fight back as brutally as they have. Because when an Israeli settler stops your palastinian car for driving on his isreal road (which he could tell cause the state mandates distinct license plates for palastinians) do you really think the Israeli state in any form will take the side of the palastinians?
I claim your land. Now get into the basement.
Interesting that. A person, especially a violent one cannot hide their nature for too long. I hope you receive the kind of justice you believe in some day.