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Add a service fee or an inflation fee if you'd like. I'll circle it and leave a big fat 0 for the tip. Without it, I'll leave 20% minimum. Problem solved.
I am tired of prices going up AND tips going up. It already was a percentage of a total, and now it's a higher percentage of a higher total?
I remember 10 percent tip. Was sort of annoyed at 15. At 20 percent with five times the bill it's gotten way out of hand.
And now my area is trying to normalize 25 percent, with 30 being "good service".
I am about to say fuck it and go back to 15. It's either that or never eating out again.
A "quick haircut" sort of place (kind of a barber, sort of , but super-high-volume and just one worker, the owner) that I've been using for a while now has a super-annoying dark-pattern in their payment flow. They book appointments, and take in-person payments using Square. After your cut, when you're paying via their hand-held kiosk with a card, the screen shows you a bunch of huge "tip amount" buttons, and it's implied that the customer has to choose one of them, while the provider looks on, in order to finish the transaction and leave (probably not true - they've already got your CC info by that point). Guess which button is highlighted/pre-selected and front-and-center! That's right, 20%. If you want to select another tip, or no tip, you have to select another button while she watches you do so. The owner lists all prices on her square website, and it's those prices you think you'll be paying when you book an appointment online, but she still feels the need to be tipped. You KNOW that the provider/barber has configured Square to present that UI to the customer. Not quite the same as the restaurant fees scam, but it's actually more manipulative though, in my view.
Bring exact change in cash and be on your merry way
Why were you down voted? I like the idea, and why do I need to tip a fuckin barber? He's doing his job down to the letter and is being payed for it.
Avoiding awkward forced interactions like this is the primary reason I cut my own hair. Otherwise, would be fine contributing to that part of the economy.
I'm tired of tips in general. Every job should pay a liveable wage. Fix the system. The more in the middle class, the more things we can have. Healthcare, education, housing, food, innovation,....etc. Fuck ripping people off so a few assholes can sleep with women just as shallow as them or rape ones that turn them down.
I never advanced from a 10% tip...if I thought the service and establishment justified tipping at all. Otherwise 0% tip.
Tipping is strictly optional; and anyone pressuring you otherwise is an asshat who doesn't need your business.
Unless your server has to tip out (which they all do) and so by choosing to hit that 0% your server now has to pay to serve you.
Businesses that do this do not get my visits usually. It's usually pretty evident.
I'm not going to fund that; and they should be demanding that the system stop and be adjusted so that such cases do not in fact happen.
Golly, I guess we'll just keep subsidizing the fucking restaurant owner instead of doing anything.
The owners do not give half a shit if you tip their workers or not. They get their tipout regardless.
You can actually help by tackling tipping culture on a city/province/state level. You're not doing anything by stiffing your server besides saving yourself money and costing your server. If you don't go out to restaurants then whether your tip or not is no one's concern.
Otherwise you're still rewarding tipping culture by patronising venues that pay their workers a sub-livable wage.
Your options are tip well, or don't eat out. It absolutely sucks that owners are making customers subsidize their employees' wages, but by receiving the service you are expected to pay for the service. Tipping culture does suck. But it helps no one to tip poorly.
It helps me and erodes tipping culture as a whole. I'm curious how you think we'll ever get past tipping culture without one of the first steps being "stop tipping for everything".
And I absolutely do pay for the service. I pay the listed price of what I'm purchasing. That should be all that's "expected". You have been brainwashed into thinking that somehow shouldn't include the cost of service. Absolutely insane.
I have never left 15% and if I'm not happy with the service 10% or lower.
I'm sure your server will understand. They're usually the ones in charge of decisions like these. /s
I hope they do understand, and quit. Workers need to stop working for shit employers.
The only employers that are hiring are shit. I'm very worried about the service industry.
Are you kidding? Everyone is struggling to find workers at that level. It's also a great time to level up. Receptionists and various no experience needed office jobs are struggling to find people to hire too. It's a workers economy right now, but it won't stay that way long.
Everyone is trying to find workers for the piss-poor wages that are being offered. Add in tip pools and positions being tipped that have no business being tipped and it couldn't be further from a worker's economy.
Wages offerings are up significantly... https://restaurant.opentable.com/resources/minimum-wage-restaurants/
https://stateline.org/2024/01/09/hospitality-workers-wages-are-rising-faster-than-high-earners-in-most-states/
But you have to move to get them. And guess what, the good employees are more likely to be offering more money.
You mean the servers that are overwhelmingly opposed to minimum wage laws applying to servers?
The same ones that complain all day about their wage and make >$40/hour with no education or training while not reporting their cash tips to the IRS?
The same ones that just drop off your food, never come back and take 20 mins to process a tab?
lol.
You've clearly never worked as or known anyone working as a server holy shit lmfao