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There was a post about making cats vegan. The mod then decided that people posting information on why that is a bad idea were antivegan or something. The mod started then removing any information that pointed to cats not being able to be health while on a vegan diet. The Lemmy.world admins them stepped in stating that improperly feeding your cat constitutes animal abuse and is unethical. This made many die hard vegans very mad.
For the record, cats can not be vegan. They can survive on it but they will have shorter more painful lives and they will go blind. There bodies start breaking down without the proteins and amino acids found in meat. I understand why vegans would be unhappy with that answer but it is the way it is.
Interesting enough, that's not the case for dog. You can put a dog on a vegan diet as long as you are very careful and are constantly monitoring. It isn't for the faint of heart and can have very sad outcomes. It isn't something you can arbitrarily do.
Disclaimer that I'm not even a vegan but you're spreading disinfo here to make vegans seem completely unreasonable. I suggest anyone check out the actual discussions instead of trusting this summary.
Cats are obligate carnivores, sparky. That means they can't be vegan.
I don't know enough about that topic to argue for or against which is not what I'm trying to argue
And yet you keep replying...
You don't know enough about the topic to argue but claim someone else is spreading misinformation.
Well if you don't know the topic but are making claims like this then it seems like you may be the one spreading misinformation.
Cats are obligate carnivores in the wild. This just means they have dietary needs that would normally require meat. But we can make vegan, synthetic food that meets these needs. In fact, studies have shown that cats on vegan diets tend to be healthier if anything.
they can't be vegan as that is an ethical choice. they can be plant based and live a perfectly normal life.
tell me where you disagree with this guy:
https://youtu.be/YxjGa0MXfAc
This asshole is a propagandist
a guy who is a professor of animal welfare?
Show me a scientific study that proves this. If you can say it with confidence, it should be no trouble at all for you to prove it. I, on the other hand, am lazy and don't care all that much, so I want the people confidently stating opinions to share their research to save me effort.
A quick search reveals quite a few sources and articles to read. I hope this helps. Not an exhaustive list.
Those aren't scientific studies. The vegans have scientific studies. You expect me to believe you know better than them, but you can't show me sources of equal quality?
One of those is a Wikipedia link which gives you primary sources. 🤔
Hey look, your Wikipedia link says the nutrients cats need from meat can be synthesised in literally the second sentence.
Sure, Vitamin A and Taurine can easily be manufactured, but that's not all a cat needs, and there are several necessary proteins that are just too expensive to manufacture at the scale needed for animal feed. but go ahead with your wikipedia scholarship, I'm sure you'll go far in life on that I'm sure.
You also put have the thing where it says they are obligate carnivores in the second sentence of the first paragraph that is cited. I did NOT make those claims just provided you with links for further reading.
Edit: spelling and grammar
It sounds like you aren't very assured of the validity of your sources in backing up your claims. If you don't believe in your own sources, why are you so confident in your opinions?
This is what I was referring to.
I wasn't making an argument either way. You asked for someone to help you with your homework and I gave you a place to start with the understanding that you were going to apply critical thinking and check source material after being shown a direction.
You want to bitch about having to think and do work? Stop getting into these types of discussions. I made no claims as to validity just that a quick search revealed many sources and articles that had info you were looking for.
Edit: spelling and grammar.
Imma gonna need you to cite your source.
Edit: you completely changed your comment. Click reveals.
It's still there fucko.