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[-] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

Good. Ad-blocking is piracy. Those content creators you are watching are depending on the revenue from ads. Either watch ads or buy premium. Third option? Don't watch youtube.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 years ago

I had no idea people like you actually exist

[-] Kajo@pawb.social 12 points 2 years ago

I held off on adblock or so so soooo long because I wanted to support the people making the videos I like. But when that veritasium video about nitrogen fertiliser came out,and the 20 minute video had LITERALLY 20 AD BREAKS in it, I installed it immediately.

I do feel bad about denying the content creators the moeny they deserve, but if the site is gonna feed me that much crap per video it becomes unusable. That was my breaking point.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Any content creator that relies on ad revenue isn't worth me giving a shit about whether they make money off their content or not.

[-] Kajo@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago

Creators at all sizes rely very heavily on ad revenue! Most youtube channels cannot just turn monetization off and keep operating. Small channels will earn very little in the way of merch (if they're big enough yet for merch at all), large channels have more expenses (like Linus Tech Tips who, last time their earnings were disclosed, still earned one THIRD of their revenue from adsense) such as studios and a production team.

I don't see how most 'tubers are supposed to survive without the ad money at all, most could tank a bit of a dip as that has happened before, but turning it off is basically not feasible.

I, for one, enjoy the fruits of their hard work, whatever their genre of content is, and think they should be duely compensated.

[-] oatscoop@midwest.social 13 points 2 years ago

Most people don't have a problem with ads.

People have a problem when the ads are so intrusive and prevalent they get in the way of the actual content. People have a problem with ad networks acting like obsessed stalkers -- building incredibly detailed profiles of them as a person and selling that information to others.

[-] fragmentcity@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

Nope sorry, Youtube gets punished for bad ad practices. You don't get to pretend that the content creator is the victim of the ad-blocking user when YT controls the platform.

[-] matricaria@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago

Content creators on YouTube get almost nothing from ad revenue, they mostly rely on sponsorships.

[-] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

Lmao yes they do. Literally Google any content creators revenue. Most don't even have sponsors. Keep lying to yourself. Just know that you're stealing from them

[-] matricaria@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Then I will gladly keep on stealing. Arr! 🏴‍☠️

[-] palebluedot@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago

It's a shame downvotes are turned off.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 2 years ago

I'm very sympathetic to this viewpoint. If anything, I actually think adblocking is worse than conventional piracy (though nowhere near as bad as actual theft), because with piracy you're costing the creator nothing and getting their stuff for free. With adblocking you're getting it free and costing them the fees for bandwidth. It's a tiny fee on a per-user basis, but it's real. Not as bad as actual theft though because you're not depriving them of the ability to sell what they created to someone else.

My problem with YouTube in particular is that they're just so damn shitty to the people that provide them value. Like Reddit, but not quite as extreme. For years YouTube has been slow to act to demonetise actual bad actors, while good actors constantly get caught up with bullshit abuses of their Content ID (with public domain content being detected, and fair use exemptions to use of copyrighted material being ignored). And more recently, with their demonetisation of marginalised creators simply for talking about their own lived experience.

I used to pay for YouTube Red back when it existed, happily. But for me the last straw came in 2018 when they started screwing over small-time creators by removing longstanding small creators from the partner programme as a lazy overreaction to a few not-longstanding bad actors.

These days, I watch as many creators as I can on Nebula, which I happily pay for, and would have happily paid for a lifetime membership of, if that offer had been available for just 1 week longer than it actually was, despite objectively the lifetime membership probably not being a good deal for the individual user. I'm happy to pay for a good experience, but not for a company that screws over its suppliers so badly.

this post was submitted on 30 Jun 2023
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