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Trump isn’t an icon of positive masculinity. He also did very little for young men during his four years as president

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[-] chakan2@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

The article completely missed the core reason for young men to vote for Trump. It's ending DEI initiatives.

That's a single issue for some of my conservative friends. The D's will never get their vote.

[-] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago

A spectacular victory for the billionaire class that your friends are focused on the one black kid who gets a leg up and not the legions of white kids who got ahead through their parents' donations and legacy admissions.

LBJ once said: "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." Clearly, 60 years on, it's still true.

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago

"But what about rich white kids"

Yeah, a great argument...

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

They're rich, thus will heavily benefit from the tax breaks.

[-] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

In the UK the Conservative party decided to get rid of DEI initiatives in education. When?

When the minority specifically recommended to be targeted for support became poor/working class white boys.

Conservatives will go out of their way to harm the working class because as long as things are going badly for them they'll be angry enough to vote for the ones with dog whistles pretending it's someone else's fault.

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 13 points 2 months ago

I guess they are just going to have to accept that diversity equity and inclusion are a part of our lives now, and that they don’t get to make decisions about who is included, and that diverse opinions really are valuable, and that we are going to continue spending our public resources to ensure we all have equitable opportunity.

I guess what I mean is, too bad for your conservative friends?

[-] chakan2@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Ehh...they'll be the next generation of old bitter men.

[-] qed123@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I agree. I am supposed to be just peachy with and validate some notion they are discussing this or any matter in good faith, while they are voting to kill my healthcare, prop up Russia, just so they can be racist? While "cleverly" refusing to sincerely discuss anything, adamantly trying to gaslight sincere prople with whatever the Russian propaganda of the hour is?

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It’s ending DEI initiatives.

Name the "endless DEI initiatives" that Harris has been promoting in her platform.

Most of the DEI that people encounter in real life originates from their workplaces. It's being pushed for marketing reasons, or because it's the only way the employer can recruit qualified staff. It's the free market in action. And in my experience, it's the marginal performers who are adversely impacted. The people who are good at their jobs keep their jobs, or quickly find another.

I'm a hiring manager, have been for a very long time. I've got two recruiting campaigns going right now, The field of applicants we interviewed was highly diverse. And the last two offer letters I've sent out were to middle-aged white men. That's because they were the best candidates. And you know what? The DEI Police are not going to come and kick down my front door at 3 AM because of my hiring decisions. DEI is a nonexistent problem, just as "woke," just as the Great Replacement lies, just as the anti-trans hysteria is. The reality is that, if you're not getting offers or someone is being promoted ahead of you, it's because your management think they'll do better than you. Suck less and you'll do better. Nobody in my job assesses me based on DEI compliance. But if I hire people who wash out because they can't do the job, or if I can't retain high performers, my ass is on the line.

And just to declare my own perspective: I'm an able-bodied older white male myself.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

Losers are afraid of competition as another older white male the system is still heavily favouring us. People are mistaking equality with discrimination and it's so damn tone deaf.

That said even I bitch about it at time.

[-] chakan2@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago

The DEI Police are not going to come and kick down my front door at 3 AM because of my hiring decisions.

Well...I've seen that happen. We had a black guy working for one of my previous employers and no one was really sure what he did. Ends up he was working his second job most days.

When said employer found out and fired him, he walked out with a 6 figure discrimination settlement. It was cheaper to settle than fight.

That cost a couple unrelated people their jobs due to budget.

I'm not pro or anti DEI. I've seen it used for good, and I've seen it abused.

[-] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

So a "They took our jobs!" kinda thing.

[-] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Day tok ma job!

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