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[-] jhymesba@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

So, because we don't do exactly what you want, you will put Blacks, Hispanics, Gays, Transgenders, Muslims, Jews, Pagans, Asians, and a whole host of other people here in the USA under a Republican Fascist Theocracy, which not only will harm those people, but also legitimately harm the people you say you care about more far more than they are being harmed now, and you wonder why you get so many negative votes and comments.

I categorically renounce and denounce your claim that Democrats are genocidal. This bullshit is all on Netanyahu and Hamas, not on innocent Israelis or Palestinians or the Democrats who aren't even in control of a damn thing in Israel. Anyone who listens to you over me is a damn fool. You vote whoever the fuck you want, but I'm still going to call you out as a fake supporter of Palestine as you scream how you can't vote for "Genocidal Democrats" because you're gonna get everyone you say you support and a whole bunch more actually killed with your vote. And with that, I'm done with you.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Holy histrionics, Batman!

Edit: You should really examine how you can hold me responsible for what may possibly happen to all those people you listed, purely based on how I do or don't vote... while at the same time categorically rejecting any responsibility of the democratic leadership for supporting the genocide in Palestine.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

Nobody in the Democratic party supports Genocide.

They support the ability of Israel to exist and defend itself.

The problem is that Bibi intentionally misuses that support and the Democrats are too spineless to call him out on it.

That's not the same as going "Oh, yes, please, take our support and kill as many people as you can with it!"

That's the Trump doctrine.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-biden-israel-pr-hugh-hewitt-21faee332d95fec99652c112fbdcd35d

“They have to get it done. Get it over with and get it over with fast because we have to -- you have to get back to normalcy and peace.”

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

I don't care what the dem leadership says about it, nearly as much as I care what they do about it. That the Biden admin and the rest of the dem leadership have real power to stop Israel, yet don't do it is materially the same thing whether they wring their hands about it or not. Maybe the confusion is around the word "support". I don't mean it in the sense of like, thoughts and prayers. I mean "support" in the sense of send offensive weapons, block any hostile measures by the UN and run interference on public demonstrations against your genocide. Plenty of dems fit the second meaning. The first meaning is irrelevant.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

That's the thing, they don't have any real power to stop Israel.

We could cut off funding today, the genocide will continue.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

So might as well keep funding then? Lol

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

We're going to keep funding them as long as Iran continues to make noises about wanting to attack them, yes.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/11/iran-israel-washington-00151821

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

You're grasping for justifications where there are none. The US could very well guarantee Israel's security from Iranian attack the way it is doing right now: by parking a carrier strike group nearby. Incidentally, we could use those same assets to simultaneously enforce a no-fly zone over Israel to prevent further bombing. Beyond that, Israel guarantees its own continued existence by way of a nuclear arsenal.

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