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[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

democracy enjoyers when people vote for parties that best represent their interests: 😡😡😡😡😡😡

[-] Cyteseer@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

What interests does Jill Stein actually represent for the people? The green party has never held a local office and she only ever pops up during the election for fundraising. If the green party actually did anything aside from campaigning for the presidency, no one would have this criticism.

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

off the top of my head, she's the only one calling for a full arms embargo of Israel, and also the only one pushing for medicare for all. she has also consistently criticized trump and biden's immigration policies. all of this aligns with my interests, and so she is who I will most likely vote for.

The green party has never held a local office

this is wrong. As of the November 7, 2023 elections, at least 142 Greens hold elected office. I found this with 2 seconds of googling.

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

As of 2023, no nominee of the Green Party has been elected to office in the federal government.

Yeah, they're real committed. 23 years and they haven't even gotten a single congressman elected.

142 local elected officials out of literally tens of thousands across the country. But Jill Stein manages to pop up every 4 years to run for president. She becomes especially loud in the years when the elections look relatively close. And, like her predecessor Ralph Nader, she's got environmental ideas (most of which have been adopted by the Democratic party) but the only other thoughts on policy are criticism of the Democrats with no actual agendas or ideas for fixing things as president. She says "stop selling arms to Israel!". Ok, sure. How does the democratic presidential candidate say they are gonna do that without pissing of AIPAC and having them throw every dime at their disposal to get Trump elected instead? Hell, she doesn't even engage with Republicans. Just democrats for some reason. I wonder why that is... Oh, yeah. Cause she's there to spoil the election. That is her only purpose. Saying anything else is disingenuous.

[-] brianary@startrek.website 0 points 2 weeks ago

If intent matters and results don't, I'll write in my favorite fictional candidate!

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

That's correct. Intent is the only thing that matters, not results. Fun fact: your fictional candidate will get the same number of EC votes as Stein.

[-] brianary@startrek.website 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm just shocked at the vanity of people aggressively voting third party. They value the purity of their voting record more than other people's lives. They think they're the first generation to figure out morality or the secret cheat code to change the system.

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