181
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] glilimith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

You seem to be giving a LOT of agency to writers for the stories they tell. Some stories are going to be something writers worked hard on wanted to write, and in those cases ya they should be blamed for the resulting flaws, but many times they are constrained by the instructions they're given.

To go back to the metaphor, did the worker decide that the stuff you need goes out of your reach or are they putting it where they were told to?

[-] thesmokingman@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

Give me concrete examples. You don’t seem to know what you’re talking about so I want to discuss something specific; the agency you’re talking about is actually there and is centered around the core of the script.

In your hypothetical where you’ve now decided everyone is just following orders, I can still say the worker did a bad job. You gonna tell me the worker is gonna get fired for not following dumb instructions? Okay. Still did a bad job, orders or not.

I do not understand why you’re so dead set on telling people critical analysis is bad. Is it morally wrong to like something more than something else? Kinda seems like that way if I can’t ever judge anything because there are constraints outside the control of the thing. I’m not going to attack a straw man here. You should expand on what we can and can’t analyze.

[-] glilimith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

I am under no circumstances saying you can't criticize art or say that the writing was bad or whatever you seem to think my position is.

Writers can and do get fired for not doing the job they were hired for and rarely get to lead the creative process (and usually if they do they're like, writer/director, or a big name). All I'm trying to say is that a worker can do a good job within the bounds they're given and still have the result be terrible because the bounds were terrible.

[-] thesmokingman@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

Give me concrete examples. You don’t seem to know what you’re talking about so I want to discuss something specific; the agency you’re talking about is actually there and is centered around the core of the script.

this post was submitted on 05 Sep 2024
181 points (96.4% liked)

196

16552 readers
2633 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS