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The one dude I spoke that was decent and respectful asked for proof of the Uygher genocide, gave him proof, the proof wasn't good enough. Gave him more proof told me it still wasn't good enough. Figured it wasn't worth it anymore because he's denying everything I give him. Told him he has a movable goal post and peace be with him. Blocked the community and just found out today they banned me. There probably are people that willing to have a dialog, but the few are giving all a bad rep
Do you have a link to that conversation? I'm interested in what your proof looked like.
Here it is https://hexbear.net/post/3384251/5347245
I have a rule that anytime anyone says something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they are lying or mischaracterizing it literally 100% of the time, and that rule has proven itself yet again.
Afraid not. I'm banned from that community now, but here are the links
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/15/china-is-committing-a-genocide-why-was-our-foreign-office-planning-to-meet-one-of-the-perpetrators
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2022/9/14/23351153/china-uyghur-muslim-genocide-xinjiang-united-nations
https://www.globalr2p.org/countries/china/
https://thediplomat.com/2024/04/erasing-memories-concealing-evidence-chinas-efforts-to-obscure-the-uyghur-genocide/
https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/chinese-genocide-of-uyghurs-in-xinjiang-continues
https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/19/break-their-lineage-break-their-roots/chinas-crimes-against-humanity-targeting
https://ieres.elliott.gwu.edu/project/chinas-genocide-against-uyghurs/
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/03/20/uyghur-genocide-nury-turkel-interview-commissioner-religious-freedom-china-beijing/
I found the thread and you had several people read your links and go through them in detail. Most of what they're claiming is traced back to crackpot Adrian Zenz.
As I said, if you go there and say wrong things and then can't back them up, they're going to be rude to you. Citing Adrian Zenz is one form of not being able to back up your claims.
Whoopsie! That's already two. It was easy to find those because they were already pointed out to you (along with several other of your sources) in the thread that you're complaining about.
Here's a tip - when you post a source on this subject, press "Ctrl+F" then type "Zenz," and if anything comes up, don't post it. Obviously, I can't expect anyone to actually read their sources before posting them, but is 6 keystrokes really too much to ask?
wtf is a zenz?
A crackpot who is connected to the CIA and a known source of misinformation and fake news.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Zenz
Most of the claims of genocide originate with him just making shit up. It's bizarre how many news articles either cite him directly or various groups that he's headed.
i thibk Uyghurs being in guatonomo is another source, because why would they leave their homeland secretly?
Anyone in Guantanamo is not a credible source when it comes to things the US wants to believe. See WMDs in Iraq.
What do you mean secretly? Chinese people don't have to sneak out of China.
I can't recommend any books on development of terrorism in Xinjiang if you want to know more, maybe ask in /c/History.
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*think, i think lemmy.blahaj.zone just went down after i sent that.
Based on the link another user had to provide, you received a lengthy criticism of your logic and sources and then didn't handle it well.
Now you are here calling them crazy.
I think I handled very well. The one person continued to refuse my assignment, so I left before OP, and I was going to get at each other's throats. I got nothing at all against OP because they were cool. I'm pretty sure I said that 100 times by now. It was everyone else that was the problem.
One user asked you to provide any source material since 2022. As an answer, you provided (seemingly) 3 links, none of which were source material for the claim since 2022.
When this was pointed out, rather than engage with these failures, you just posted 5 links.
A different user replied to you to point out that all of the sourcing in those articles goes back to a particularly absurd fraud named Adrian Zenz. I'll add that the sourcing is also pre-2022, but the user responding to you wrote several paragraphs critical of Zenz and why you should be skeptical. You did not respond to this person at all despite replying to others later.
The user from before responded by immediately pointing out that your links, yet again, did not include sourcing since 2022. They then went through each link to explained how this was the case.
Your response to this: "I did learn something. You have a movable goal post. On that note, I'm out. Peace be with you". That's it. That's all you wrote.
What I just described is you displaying a series of bad faith behaviors. And then you came over here to complain Lmao.
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Is this photo supposed to mean something to someone? Because it doesn’t mean anything to me or TinEye. No idea who that guy is.