Will it be effective?
Spoiler
No, it was not very effective.
EDIT: The banning event continues. Please consult the modlog to observe.
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&modId=7121342
If you scroll down to about a day ago, you might be able to observe an emerging behavior from this mod.
EDIT 2: The mod in question moderates a total of 108 Lemmy communities. How deep does this conspiracy run? Is this mod a lost Redditor? More to come!
EDIT 3: The mod has now removed my comment all together, one might assume because it was still receiving upvotes in the 2 hours following my ban. Are there similarities here to Watergate? You be the judge!
EDIT 4: The mod in question has now been removed as a mod of the !vegan@lemmy.world community, as a result of their abuse of power.
https://lemmy.world/post/19731457
This was their response:
EDIT 5: This will be my final update, since as far as I see it, the issue this thread focuses on has been resolved. To quote Beaver herself in a very ironic comment she made directed towards someone else:
Clearly this was all just a case of...
Oh boy, it looks like they're posting the "you should feed your obligate carnivorous pets a fully vegan diet" garbage again.
Edit:
Trying to paint your special diet group as a minority group is kinda fucking offensive. People get murdered, raped, beaten, abused, fired, divorced, jailed, tortured, sent to re-education camps, and so on, for being black, or LGBT, or Hispanic, or Muslim, or whatever. Vegans though? No. Unlike the other examples, vegans don't get murdered for something you were born with; they don't have entire continents who want to murder them. They just get ridiculed, and tbh, nowadays most of the ridicule is due to their garbage attitudes and nothing to do with the diet itself.
The modlog should at least contain an identifier of the mod. Maybe not a link to their account but something that can be tracked across communities. To see who is abusing their power.
I'm pretty it's Beaver. I'm now banned (and I appear to be blocked by Beaver as well) and I'm pretty sure the only recent direct interaction I've had with the community was downvoting the recent articles about how vegan diets are okay for carnivorous pets.
Yeah, beaver is a bit batshit lol
They went batshit with the meme posting last night and the threads were mostly shitting on them. They are full tilt.
Yup just checked, banned.
Modlog does contain the info, it's just not displayed on the website. You can get the full data from lemmy API
Example:
Nice.. thanks. I had indeed just checked the website. I think it should then just be on the website. Especially if they are exposing votes then open this up too.
Yeah it's weird it just says 'mod' or 'admin' instead of the username
It's because people abused mods who banned them and such. I kinda get it.
Transparency for thee....
Yeah..
Thunder shows the mod for each modlog action.
The info is there. You can tell who it is by using the filters (e.g. logs filtered on me as the user that were modded by beaver: https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&modId=7121342&userId=36)
It’s a pain in the ass but it works.
Yeah vegans should not consider themselves as a minority.
The ANIMALS are the minority group. Not YOU. The entitlement speaks to an ego trip and is a vicious representation of the cause.
They should have their platform removed because they are hurting the image of the vegan movement
This is coming from a vegan btw
relevant xkcd
To be fair, minority in the sense that there is a power imbalance between us humans, the majority, and domesticated animals, the minority.
I'm not a vegan or even a vegetarian, but even I can see that my vegetarian friends get questioned uncomfortably all the time for their diet choice. When you do something differently, you inevitably get bullied.
I used to be a vegetarian for a decade and then a pescetarian before apathy fully set in and I saw how pointless it all is.
Vegans and vegetarians can be some of the most judgemental gatekeeping assholes out there. Many of them aren't, but the ones that are militant and overbearing are the worst and only push others from their cause. Those ones desperately want to feel better than others, so become borderline eating disordered to elevate themselves to some holy god level in their minds because they eat beans and lentils.
They aren't in the same class as minorities. They choose to eat the diet they do. And no one can visibly tell they are vegetarian/vegan until they tell others they are.
They are not in the same situation as minorities, but if they stay true to their ideals, they get bullied just like minorities. The fact there are assholes among them just like in any other group of people changes nothing.
Getting bullied is not the same as being a "MINORITY". White kids who are not minorities in North America but get bullied all the time in school. Not eating flesh of a mammal or fish etc doesn't mean you are a "minority". Like I said, I've experienced life as a veggie. Is it annoying? The stupid questions, the comments people make? Yes. But I've never had a cop pull me over and worry about whether I'll die that day because I don't eat beef. Or worry, walking down the street, alone at night as a single woman, if I'll be assaulted because I don't eat chicken. Non-meat-eaters aren't minorities in the sense that they are discriminated against in the idea that the word "minority" conjures up. They deal with, at most, someone tricking them into eating meat. Which I've had done. It felt violating and offensive but wasn't any sort of level as someone who is an actual "minority" in our continent.
As I think about it though, the word minority now mosty means an ethnical minority. But when mentioning women - although discriminated against, they're not a minority in the original sense at all - there is usually the same number of women and men, the problems lie elsewhere. In this sense of the word, vegans are a minority in our society. They could be compared to religious minorities, I guess. It's a choice, but a choice based on ethical foundations, so going against this choice is unthinkable for those people without being untrue to themselves and betraying what they believe in.
Okay, I can really understand what you are trying to say. I feel like there needs to be a different or new word for this kind of experience maybe? Because choosing to abstain from a food group or what have you doesn't make your minority in the sense most of us think of, even if it's technically correct. And we don't want to minimize what true minorities go through when our food choices in this case our truly our own choice. But it is definitely a different experience when someone finds out you choose not to eat the type of food they do. They take it so personally you are not eating meat. I actually had the same issues when I was doing Atkins ages ago, which is mostly protein based. People questioning my food choices because it wasn't what they they eat and they took it as a personal judgement against them.
I didn't want to say it was the same. Just that they do get bullied.
Yeah sorry if I got a bit heated in my response. Maybe I misunderstood your point.
I was curious, so I had a look, seems like it still leads to violence in some occurences
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-do-angry-vegans-meat-eaters-fight-so-much-2020-2?op=1
Yeah, but c'mon, that's Floridaman. He's a meth head who'd murder someone because he wanted to fuck an alligator and thought he needed a human sacrifice to do it.
Whoa now! Don't tarnish the good name of alligator fuckers like that!
Alligator lovers
Hey, the lovers are okay in my book too
I don't think that counts as targeted hate crime or whatever. He wasn't stabbed for veganism, he was stabbed from the heated argument, which by trigger happy dumbos like these could have been about anything.