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Don’t Fall for the Third-Party Trick
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So if they can't vote for their views now, and we keep pushing the duopoly, when do we get democracy?
That’s the neat part… you don’t.
When you start doing things that actually work.
Look up the Moral Majority and Jerry Falwell. They would show up at every local GOP organizing event with enough voters to make sure their candidates for jobs like mayor, sheriff, and county clerk got the nod.
Gotcha, I'll keep organizing outside the useless electoral system.
That's a neat way to say "being too lazy to actually make a difference, but I don't want to feel bad about it".
What laws have you gotten passed?
Why would passing laws be my concern? The answer is 0.
Cryophilia said it better than I could, so I'll repeat their comment.
I'll just add that if you aren't interested in passing laws you should vote for Harris if only to annoy the Right.
I don't believe the way forward is by passing laws in a system that cannot be reformed into a good one, so it doesn't make sense to judge my praxis by passing laws within said system.
I think this right here illustrates your political views perfectly, "owning the chuds" is more important than actually working towards progress.
I'm sure your outside organizing will be much easier under the "let's arrest or deport everyone that does agree with us, burn all the books with ideas we don't agree with, and you'll never have to vote again" candidate.
Name one piece of actual progress you've made. One would be nice.
You probably love to rail at Obamacare and point out that it was originally created by Mitt Romney.
Maybe the ACA wasn't perfect, but 40 million people have some health insurance who wouldn't have had it without Obama and the Dems.
What have you done that's helped anyone?
What on Earth is this strawman tangent? Touch grass.
It's a simple question.
Either your way of doing things has produced results, or it hasn't.
Talk all you want about 'strawman' and I'll point to 40 million people with some kind of health care.
You're still attacking a strawman, lmao. Again, touch grass.
Let's turn it around.
Explain why me asking you to produce actual results is a 'strawman.'
You keep saying it, so you must have an idea of what it means.
I have never railed at Obamacare, nor do I point out that it was created by Romney. You spent the next several comments working off of that same false assumption.
No, I asked you to provide some actual results you've produced.
I cited the ACA as an example of something that has produced results.
You still haven't shown anything like actual progress.
That's the thing, they never do. They have been pushing the lesser evil splitting the vote bullshit for over 150 years. The only people that benefits is the wealthy
Were the party system changes before then more due to
a major party crushing the other major party, and then splitting, or
a minor party growing and eventually replacing one of the two major parties?
Bonus points if anyone has a source on this.
October Surprise comes to mind.