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Admiral Snaccbar @Chris Mench Serving shrimp with the tail still on when it's already mixed into something (pasta, rice, etc) is insane.
Looking at my own country and other countries I've lived in, I think it's to do with poverty or at least recent poverty - Portugal was very poor back in before the Revolution in 74 and still now it's far more common around here to eat all those parts of animals (and, curiously, one of my favorite dishes is a local version of tripe) than that I noticed in The Netherlands and the UK (though the Scots do have the famous Haggis).
The funny thing is that nowadays at least some of those things have been found to be quite healthy to eat.
We have a traditional dish in the UK which are meatballs made from minced pork liver and heart, mixed with bacon, onion and breadcrumbs. Unfortunately, I cannot name this dish because it shares the same name as a homophobic slur but they are known as "ducks" in Yorkshire, Lincolnshire and Lancashire.
I had to look up the recipe to figure out the slur you were alluding to...yikes. I don't blame you for not repeating the name here.
Another fun fact, the shortened version of that slur (word that rhymes with 'rag') is what we call cigarettes.
I'd heard the cigarette version before. Blows my American mind.
Steak and kidney pie also a classic. Liver and bacon as well.
You don't see much organ meats in the Netherlands and the UK much because they are shipped to France where the price is high (and being a part of the EU, the isn't any extra taxes for that). It's market choices, not dietary, combined with they were never a huge desire for them there.
It's also why you don't really see much chicken feet for sale, they are shipped to China where the price is high.
And yet, curiously, they're not shipped from Portugal to France even though it's not all that much farther way than England.
If it was all about the price being high in France then surely the Portuguese slaughterhouses would be shipping that stuff there, not selling it to butchershops in Portugal.
I think you might be confusing cause and consequence: it's not that the Brits and Dutch can't eat that stuff because it all gets shipped to France as the prices are higher there, it's that because the Brits and Dutch are not eating that stuff the prices are lower in Britain and The Netherlands than in France (were they do eat that stuff) so it mostly gets shipped to France. This latter hypothesis does explain why a country were people do eat that stuff and with lower purchasing power than France does in fact have that stuff available locally rather than it all having been exported to France.
I think you're confused. You literally repeated what I said.
I never said that they can't, it's that they didn't normally so they ship it out which now prevents people from developing a taste for it as it now goes out for a higher price.
As for the other part of why Portugal keeps it, it's for a local market and the issues that deal with it. Think like most Asian nations won't ship out rice for a higher price on the open market.
You literally said it's high prices in France driving exports from The Netherlands and Britain hence as you literally said the market drives the diet
I literally said it's dietary habits driving the Market, the very opposite. It's extraordinary that you think I "repeated what you said" unless you're just counting words, rather than reading the actual sentences.
Your Market-driven Dietary Habits theory is wholly inconsistent with the situation of Portugal since those French prices you claimed were so high they drove exports from The Netherlands and Britain (the latter not even a Single Market member) changing their local dietary habits would definitely cause those products to be exported from Portugal (were people have lower purchasing power and prices for food are definitely lower than France) also, also changing dietary habits in Portugal, which has not happened.
Your vague claims of "local market" are grounded on nothing but wishful thinking and ignorance: Portugal is part of the Single Market and very close to France, a situation than has no comparison at all with Asia - it literally takes less than a day to ship something by truck from anywhere in Portugal to anywhere in France and it doesn't even have to be subject to any border controls or phytosanitary checks as meat products coming from Britain would - post-Brexit it's literally easier to export animal products to France from Portugal than from Britain even though the distance as the crow flies is less for the latter.
If Polish beef can be found in Portuguese supermarkets then chicken giblets would definitely make their way to France if prices were high enough there compared to Portugal to justify the 1000 or so miles of hauling by refrigerated truck, and yet one can find them along with all kinds of animal innards in supermarkets and butchers in Portugal, even in those outside the larger cities were prices are lower.
In some cases (such as for example Cow and Pig liver) those things aren't even cheaper than good quality meat cuts in Portugal, and yet people still buy them hence butchers and supermarkets still stock them.