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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Just gonna say it:

Donald trump is the single greatest argument for 2A rights we have ever seen.

Granted: We need at least some basic changes- universal background checks. waiting periods to let those happen. ban bump stocks. ban anything like bumpstocks.Trump being the best argument doesn't change that we need basic reform, and we've needed it for decades.

[-] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Why?? Every time someone uses political violence the would be dictator becomes more popular and he can make the state more repressive. Even right now, there will be idiot undecided voters that will change their vote to him because some idiot tried to kill him. There are really no upsides to attempting to remove tyrants with guns.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Did you forget about the part where he started a fucking insurrection because he lost an election fair and square?

He's basically the reason the 2A exists- to act as a final measure against assholes like trump from coming to power.

(In the modern era, it's not a very good measure, don't get me wrong. Dudes with rifles- even LMGs- aren't going to hold out against dudes inside tanks and flying UCAVs dropping bombs... and I'm all for not-idiotic gun control. a firearm painted black is not "tactical"... or any more dangerous.)

[-] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I don’t believe that, even in the face of a full coup, (gun) violence will solve any issues. There’s just no way that a majority of people support a violent militia taking over power of the government, no matter how illegitimate some think that government is.

As examples, look at the recent coup attempt in Turkey, or the Wagner uprising in Russia. In both cases the violent uprisings were used by the dictator to cement his power. Guns will not help you.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I don’t know how clear I can be: it’s not a very good measure.

I’m not even saying it’s a good argument.

I’m saying Trump is the best argument for it.

It’s a question of irony. Most hardcore 2a weirdo’s support trump. Yet he’s the best argument for the 2a.

Make sense?

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