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Eh, the current thing is El Niño, of course climate change makes it worse, but this event happens periodically.
Ah my first downvote post reddit
A downvote without any context or corrections doesn't really mean much.
So you think the climate isn't changing because of carbon emissions? Oh my sweet summer child
I think the person brought up a point about El Nino and I was hoping to see an educated comment explaining why they were wrong, instead I just saw a lazy comment lolz quality comment.
I think the person brought up a point about El Nino as a thread derailment tactic, and deserves to be downvoted for said bad-faith action.
What?
Ah yes i have to be wrong because? The biggest Water evaporation zone is shifting places, African countries see immense raining, Europe a very inconsistent summer and usa a super hot one, these changes don't come from climate change itself, thats El Nino. I literally said that climate change makes it more impacting.
We'll never know because the guy that commented just gave a snarky downvote without an explanation of why you were wrong.
Yeah the recent influx of average redditors is very noticeable...
Ok why? Any actual argument besides hive mind gambling?
El Niño is the least of our problems. Even the article mentions it only in passing.
El Niño is a major problem. Before it kicked in the North Atlantic sea surface temperature was a full degree above last years record breaking temperature. The addition of el Niño, this summer, could have a terribly effect on Arctic sea ice extent, and potentially catastrophic next year summer.
Also the Antarctic sea ice is freezing at the slowest rate since they started recording in 1979, it is currently 2 million km^2^ below where it should be. As the extent will be so low at the peak of the southern hemisphere's winter, the melt season in summer, with the sea being hotter due to el Niño, is going to be pretty fucking bad. And with less white ice to reflect the heat, and more dark ocean to absorb it, it will get even hotter!
We temporarily crossed the 1.5°C threshold earlier this month. Next year it is likely we'll cross is more frequently.
El Niño while it is a cycle, because things are so fucked at the moment, it will only hasten ecological collapse.
Oh and it might finally kill off most coral.
Ok, stupid question. What exactly is El Niño, or is it relative to your location. In CA El Niño has always just meant a wet winter. No other change.
This is a really informative video on it. But essentially yes, depending on where you are, what the jetstreams are doing, depends on how el Niño will effect different regions.
A periodic band of warm water water in yhr pacific that causes weather changes when in effect. Here in AR for example, it's hot as balls.
I’ve been in AZ/UT in what I can only describe as monsoon season. Near constant rain. Roads/freeways washing away. Is that El Niño too?
I think it was 2013 or 2014 we were driving back to San Diego from Boneville Salt Flats and a stretch of the 15 washed out. Everyone ended up being diverted to the single lane highway we were taking, through the middle of NOWHERE, and caused a shit ton of traffic. Fun times.
No that's just monsoon season in AZ/UT. In AZ it happens every year around the end of summer where it will just rain really hard everyday for a few weeks. We get lots of flash floods around then.
I didn't want to downplay El Niño in any way. It's just one of the problems we are facing.
Agree but I do think that our climate and weather systems are so complex that it's just one big thing. It's all interconnected. Like the soot from wild fire smoke landing on glaciers and sea ice, reducing albedo, increasing temperatures, making el Niño more hotter, causing more wild fires.
The article barely mentions it, yes thats literally why i said it, its right now the most impacting thing regarding Weather.
We have not been in El Nino for the last 3 years or so.
7 years and whats your point?
During non-el nino years do you also deny climate change?
Where did they deny climate change? Did they edit?
This type of dismissal is a type of climate change denial.
“These things happen naturally.”
“The climate might be changing but it’s not as bad as is being portrayed.”
“Climate change might be happening but it’s not manmade.”
“Of course the climate is changing, we’re exiting an ice age.”
Some or all of the above might sound reasonable but a certain type of person bounces from excuse to excuse without recognizing or admitting there’s an actual catastrophe brewing.
They didn't say anything like that...
They said, in fewer words, that the current heat is climate change exaggerated by El Nino, which is true.
I don't see how that's denying man-made climate change, or misrepresents the severity.
Man i literally said climate change makes it worse...
You can give the benefit of the doubt. I’ll choose not to.
I literally said that climate change makes it worse but ok Mister know it all...
The self-inflicted extinction of the human race is a natural occurrence. /s
It kinda is... I mean we already tried several times.
Humans didn’t exist before God created them. This is a natural occurrence.
Humans created gods, not vice versa
Sorry there are no gods besides me.
Where did they deny climate change? Did they edit?
Where the hell did I do that?