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[-] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A big reason that drove me was that I have a micropenis.

Fake. There are no "reasons to drive someone" other than their internal gender, this sounds like something ~~a cis person~~ someone who thinks being trans is a choice would say.

Edit: For clarity, I'm not speculating on whether or not the OP in the post is trans or cis, I'm saying it doesn't sound like a real story because it sounds inauthentic to the trans experience. A trans person could easily think this up, like anyone can make up a story that is close to their experiences, but since it isn't real it doesn't really pass scrutiny.

[-] Ptsf@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago

That's such reddit logic. You assume everyone has a perfect understanding of themselves, but people have a lot of different things internally that drive them and they're not always aware of it. When I was young I was interested in other men, and frankly, quite disgusted by it. It's the habitat I was raised in and if you'd asked me back then, I'd have told you it was because I was a sinner. The real reason as I came to discover was indeed that I'm just gay. It took a lot of steps and discovery to get there. I'm not saying this is real, I'm just pointing out that just because your logic is correct does not mean that this person if they are real has made enough discoveries about themselves to be strictly logical.

[-] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You assume everyone has a perfect understanding of themselves

The 'understanding' of gender is appreciating how gender is socially constructed. That requires observation of society, hence revealing of new information, hence a journey of understanding.

Your own gender is an experience, one that is even present (although not labelled) without the social norms. It's what you experience as what you want to be and do. It would exist without the social construction of gender. You could prefer certain colours and certain toys regardless of what society says is 'right' or 'wrong' for your external genitalia and designation on a birth certificate. I have known what society thinks about gender is not important to me since I first saw gender norms in the real world. I found the whole concept ridiculous. I've known that I am treated as male for having a penis, but am actually not interested in gender, since before I discovered terms like non-binary.

Someone saying that "you need to watch Gordon Ramsay says about cooking before you know what food you like" is ridiculous. You've had experiences and you prefer some of them without Gordon Ramsay. He doesn't even need to exist.

Someone saying "you realise your gender preferences by being mocked for your micropenis" is being similarly ridiculous. Gender does not equate to external genitalia.

It's not a 'perfect understanding'. It's 'having experiences', which everyone does.

 

 

When I was young I was interested in other men, and frankly, quite disgusted by it. It’s the habitat I was raised in and if you’d asked me back then, I’d have told you it was because I was a sinner. The real reason as I came to discover was indeed that I’m just gay. It took a lot of steps and discovery to get there.

You did have an understanding of yourself. That was scared out of you by threats. You didn't discover that you were gay - you just knew it, because it was a feature of your experience - you discovered that other people were wrong when they told you that was disgusting.

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