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[-] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

the west is not really a geographic term, and its not really well defined either it has 3 main uses:

most commonly: the west: as in western europe and their settlers colonial offshoots (excluding Spanish and Portuguese ones but including the Spanish and Portuguese themselves)

most uselessly and confusing: the west: as in the global north (also not geographic) in its entirety

and less commonly: the west: as in all european cultures or cultures derived from europe, so most of europe and all settler colonies

[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

excluding Spanish and Portuguese ones but including the Spanish and Portuguese themselves

What ?

[-] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

excluding Spanish and Portuguese colonies but including the Spanish and Portuguese people themselves i guess i should have said Spain and Portugal instead of referring to their people.

[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

But why exclide them ? Is this an american thing ?

[-] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

they are excluded because the term is descriptive, these countries are excluded by the west from many agreements and organizations, they are exploited by the west and its systems of imperialism. Culturally speaking they are similar but geopolitically speaking they have nothing in common.

[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 points 21 hours ago
[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The idea is that Spain and Portugal are part of the "West", but not Spanish or Portuguese colonial offshoots, which are mostly South American and haven't fared as well as the colonial offshoots from other nations of western Europe.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Guess they meant "Spain and Portugal themselves"

[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Ok so which of these definitions describes Israel?

[-] Adlach@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
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