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Many ancient and indigenous societies were able to function very efficiently with a communist government, I don't see why Laos, Cuba, Vietnam, and Venezuela's attempts have been so terrible in the way that they are completely authoritarian. The Iroquois Nations's democratic government was basically the foundation of the US's democratic government, and they were also a communist society. So I see many examples of primitive communism being able to function. I even found out about an Indian state called Perula that is also a successful comminist state. I don't see why we can't make communism and socialism work out in countries like Laos, Cuba, Vietnam, and Venezuela. Forgive me if anything I said is wrong.

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[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

What's a key difference between pre-colonialist Iroquois society and modern Cuban society?

The Iroquois didn't have to fend off reactionaries in order to maintain their sovereignty. They along with every other Indigenous nation all but collapsed shortly after colonialist powers arrived. Primitive communism may work great in relatively small groups with no serious external forces working against them, but it stands no chance against colonial or imperial violence.

How has Cuba survived three generations as a people's state right in the clutches of the global hegemonic empire? By walking the socialist road. If and when that requires actions of a forceful and/or authoritarian nature, so be it. The people have chosen to defend their state and their sovereignty over certain domination by a belligerent reactionary. They know their preferred destination, and they know how to work towards it.

Yes, it's authoritarian to defend one's sovereignty. Does that have to be such a bad thing?

Maybe State and Revolution is coming up on your reading list soon for more depth on this topic.

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