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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can you stop filling my inbox with nationalist bullshit? Christ, I couldn't read past the first line. Grass is greener my ass.

[-] SamboT@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Hope you find the help you need. Let me know if you want to talk.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ableism, nice.

When you stop emotionally reacting to people criticising your government let me know? You owe as much loyalty to governments as you owe to your boss.

[-] SamboT@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Not everything is political. All we have is each other and we can choose to be kind. There's a lot of anger here and I can't know where it's coming from so I won't try to assume anything about you. I just don't appreciate you telling me I'm racist for saying America has a lot of immigration. Its not okay. You are assuming more about me than is fair.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] SamboT@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It's a nice graphic for sure. I think what I'm trying to say is that while we must practice vigilance to maintain equality and freedom, we carry out these obligations so that we can enjoy our lives.

I don't understand what I've done to be a target for your activism. I'm not a bad person. It's relevant to point out that lower literacy might not be a failing of our education system as the statistic implies.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mate why are you talking like you're giving a presidential campaign speech? And what equality and freedom are you bloody talking about? In america? Equality and freedom? Are you having a fucking laugh?

Genuinely taking the piss. I'm going to defer to my man Albert Einstein:

"I came to America because of the great, great freedom which I heard existed in this country. I made a mistake in selecting America as a land of freedom, a mistake I cannot repair in the balance of my life." December, 1947

[-] SamboT@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

We have some degree of equality and freedom to maintain, even if it's not utopian. I'm not sure what preferable alternative exists to vigilance.

You are continuing to attack me because I talk differently than you? I am trying to be diplomatic. This is me.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People failing to buy into your delusional nationalism is not an "attack". You don't get to demand that people agree with delusional nationalism and then claim you're under attack when they scoff at them. The very heart of every single one of your responses is the flag waving nationalist bollocks mate, and it's deeply deeply embarrassing behaviour that completely lacks self awareness.

[-] SamboT@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I'm seeing the opposite ideology as destructive though. Working with each other and the system to affect change is surely better than entrenching and dividing? You are saying it's bad to believe we can make the world a better place? What is more effective than believing that your country can do better? Shouldn't we be talking to each other instead of downvoting and blocking each other?

I don't understand much about what you want because you aren't talking about it. You just insult me.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The working class can not work with the bourgeoisie. The two have completely opposing interests. Anything that benefits the bourgeoisie comes from exploiting the working class, and anything that benefits the working class comes from reducing that exploitation by the bourgeoisie.

"Let's work together" is either the political theory of a child that understands nothing or the intentionally subversive lies by someone that does understand but wants to mislead others. You may as well be telling people in africa to work together with the colonial masters exploiting them.

Shouldn't we be talking to each other instead of downvoting and blocking each other?

Hexbear doesn't even have downvotes.

What is more effective than believing that your country can do better?

This isn't what you want. You do nothing except defend against criticism from people that want to make things better. Because your brain is full of nationalism and you can't help but leap to the defence of the state whenever it is criticised. This behaviour isn't because you want it to be better, it's because you view criticism as a threat.

[-] SamboT@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you, but what option do we have except working with the system?

I don't disagree that exploitation exists. It's hard for me to focus on that when I am benefitting from the exploitation of others.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Constructing a new system minus the limitations of the existing one.

[-] SamboT@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago
[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Not impossible, merely very very difficult.

And the alternative is no change and a dying world. So there is no choice whatsoever.

[-] VolatileExhaustPipe@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hate to extrapolate data as an idiotic internetter but being born in the US and being illiterate could also be because

The thing is that so often people who have no clue about things and the real living situations of people do talk down on people who are experts about those questions or affected. Effectively a lot of what you did was muddying the water and thus implicitly justifying that there might be good or acceptable reasons.

You were nationalist and you were racist with that and you were also ignorant of your own history and by being that ignorant you again actively(!) marginalized the BIPoC people in the US, as well as muddied class. In your other answers you were ableist and not kind either. You could've been kind, but you weren't.

Lol damn you don’t have to call me a racist

Well then don't act like one. Don't try to defend faults of your country, try to help the people affected by the faults. Listen to affected people and listen to experts. This is a chance to grow for you. You can be kind and you can create a welcoming place for others. To do that you would need some collective work though and maybe read How To Become an Anti-Racist (and you could also watch the liberal lecture series by Robert Reich to get more how red lining works).

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