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[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Today? F1 is a fucking travesty - rich assholes burning crazy amounts of fuel to speed around in circles taking more from future generations every fucking lap.

While I don't disagree that spectating races is boring, the amount of CO2 those put out pale in comparison to commutator traffic or the container ships running bunker fuel. We could have EV races and if each manufacturer entered their base models, could help with adoption. We could also make the ICE races run biogas(methane from antibiotic digesters) or biodiesel(tractor pulls could easily adopt that with only a small lowering of performance that all the tractors would share).

but anything combusting is a giant middle finger to your own children.

All consumption is.

[-] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

Container ships are some of the most efficient things on the planet. Per person f1 has insane output

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

But are all the things they transport necessary? Is it necessary for them to burn bunker fuel? Fuel so dirty, they aren't allowed to burn it near the ports and have to switch to diesel. There's some effort to design sail container ships, but how much plastic shit or Fast Fashion shit do we need?

[-] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

Oh certainly not. But they're certainly still much more worth it overall than an f1 race. I mean, I do have more extremist environment takes. I think fast fashion should be banned and most plastics too just outright

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

All consumption is.

consumption for production is one thing, entirely optional, benefitting only one party entertainment coming at the cost of everyone else?

that's a dick move.

[-] lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

The emissions from 20 cars driving in circles for a few hours a week could continue until the end of humanity and still be just a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of damage the production industry has done up to this point.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

bud the bucket overflowed a long, long time ago. now it's pouring over the rim, and you're like: eh, it's just a few thousand tons of CO2 every year, for funsies, it won't matter.

it all matters. you're just too vroom vroom to fucking care.

[-] lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago

The emissions from the cars themselves isn't even 2000 tons of CO2. That's 1/200000 of 1% of annual emissions. If you're that concerned, you shouldn't be on this site because the server, your computer, and your router are all adding CO2 to the atmosphere.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

it all matters. you’re just too vroom vroom to fucking care.

[-] lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

Then you better not live in a house, turn your lights on, use your computer, go to the grocery store, go see a movie, go to a concert, buy anything at all, travel any other way than by foot. Or you could put your effort into something that'll actually make a difference.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

quack quack quack, sure bud, you know the math, it's easy to figure out: you're adding to it... FOR FUN.

I don't.

Don't worry, one day you'll get there, and meanwhile, your children will rightfully despise you regardless.

[-] lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

Oh, so now it doesn't all matter?

If you really don't do anything fun that contributes to CO2 emissions, you don't do anything fun at all. Unless you live in the woods and survive off nuts and berries, you're doing something that contributes to worsening the atmosphere.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

you’re doing something that contributes to worsening the atmosphere.

Yes, I live in society. I don't take my entertainment from watching idiots dump burned hydrocarbons into the atmosphere, though. Only someone sick in the head sees that and thinks: ooh, ah, this is FUN.

this all really hurt feelings, didn't it, vroom vroom?

hope it keeps you up at night.

[-] lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

No, you just get your entertainment from arguing with strangers on the internet (which accounts for way more emissions than F1 does)

I'm gonna sleep so well tonight knowing I get to wake up tomorrow and watch vroom vroom while you watch paint dry

[-] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sometimes the build race tracks specifically for single races. That's awful

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

In the modern world, all consumable products are made with energy from fossil fuels or transported with fossil fuels. You need to be constantly thinking about the supply chain, even if you only use public transportation. Favoring Green or greener options the whole way or simply abstaining from certain optional activities.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

oh shit, he's almost there..

and if those fossil fuels are for ENTERTAINMENT ITS EASY TO REDUCE THE ENTIRE LOAD RIGHT?

COME ON YOU ARE SO FUCKING CLOSE TO WAKING UP

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I don't want to be put on a watch list by mentioning the certain key phrases that I would have to to continue this conversation.

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