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‘Useful Idiot for Russia’: DNC Decides to Go Off on Jill Stein
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Her platform literally calls for the disbanding of NATO
Sure, but what leftist wouldn't call for the disbanding of NATO?
Yes, a good leftist must only parrot what dear leader Putin tells them to. Nice no true Scotsman argument btw
Do you understand why leftists have opposed NATO since its inception?
It's because you support genocide as long as it's done by Russia or China
Cool insult! Do you know any of NATO's history?
Insult? I'm just anti genocide and wondering why you're pro genocide
Heh OK, if you ever get some intellectual curiosity, look into the history of NATO and how it's been used to suppress and kill left wing movements around the globe.
It's on wikipedia, not hard to find.
Only if you stop supporting genocide
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There's nothing funny about genocide
To be clear, your question dodging and lack of curiosity is funny.
Your support of genocide is not
When NATO was founded, what did Lord Ismay famously say it was for?
Something other than stopping Russia for committing genocide. Which means he was incorrect because that's what NATO is currently doing.
It's not controversial to say that the US / NATO helped trigger the war in Ukraine.
Not on your state sponsored propaganda instance maybe. Can't wait till they play Swan Lake. Should be soon. What a classic
While that's an accurate description of NYTimes and Wikipedia, they're probably not the outlets you had in mind.
Don't get your evidence from opinion pieces.
What evidence are you calling into question specifically? That NATO expanded after the fall of the USSR?
I'm not. I'm not the same person. I'm just telling you that you shouldn't cite an opinion piece as evidence.
Oh, in this case an opinion piece in US media is evidence. @catsarebadpeople believed that the opinion (NATO's expansion partially caused the war) was limited to Russian / BRICS media.
Which could have been influenced by Russian media. You and I don't know because it's an opinion piece. It's not a researched piece of journalism.
I think you're working deep under cover for Russia.
Hey, at least you got the concept of what I'm saying. Don't trust opinions. Trust actual, credible journalism.
I have to agree that completely ignoring the nytimes op-ed section is healthy and brings you closer to the truth. I'm glad we've established that.
I don't even think you need to qualify that with nytimes. Just ignore the op-ed section.
Yes agreed.
I think I know where you're confused. Here's the original claim that begat this thread,
The claim is about an opinion being generally accepted. To confirm or refute the claim requires secondary sources, since the claim is about opinions.
If the claim were simply,
Then the claim is concerned directly with what triggered the war in Ukraine. To confirm or refute the claim, you'd benefit more from primary sources (including journalism, as you mentioned.)