442
submitted 10 months ago by LWD@lemm.ee to c/firefox@lemmy.ml

sigh

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] romp_2_door@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

I mean they've been pedaling AI crap for a while without negative backlash.

Similarly they tried to ride the Blockchain train back in the crypto scam days and also didn't face any backlash.

They've publicly vouched to become an AI company and an advertising company without backlash.

I think most Firefox users don't care

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 20 points 10 months ago

I think most Firefox users don’t care

Oh we care, but there's no alternative besides Chrome and Safari and those companies are even worse (Google definitely is, anyway, Apple is debatable)

Luckily there's still alternatives like Librewolf that unfortunately still use Mozilla's browser engine.

I do hope the Servo project will be ready to use in a production browser soon.

[-] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago

Apple is definitely just as fucking terrible.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Compared to Google? Idk. Google doesn't sell any products to the end user so that says a lot about who the customers are.

Apple sells products. Apple users ARE the customers.

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago

No. Apple's just getting paid from both sides.

[-] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Hard agree. Apple's ecosystem is primarily completely closed-source. If you abandon them or they abandon you you're left with nothing. At least with open source-based projects like Chrome/Firefox you can fork the code and not have to start from zero against a goliath. Apple would never give its customers that kind of leverage.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

We are stuck with Firefox based browsers for a few years at the minimum as it takes a really long time to develop an engine.

Also Servo is very much not the only thing around. Ladybird exists as well

[-] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 10 months ago

What they mean with AI features is also their offline website translation feature, which is something I've wanted for years. The alternative is online Google website translation.

[-] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

I agree with you. It's frustrating to see people lump in genuinely good AI/ML work like private on-device translations in attempts to discredit Mozilla. There are good criticisms against them. They've made mistakes. There's zero need to lump in AI/ML.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

Honestly a lot of Firefox users are eyeing forks

[-] s_s@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

They are a Silicon Valley-based foundation half-heartedly rehashing Silicon Valley's worst trends.

The truth is, you have to do these sorts of things to attract and retain talent, even if they aren't great ideas.

this post was submitted on 20 Sep 2024
442 points (96.6% liked)

Firefox

20480 readers
105 users here now

/c/firefox

A place to discuss the news and latest developments on the open-source browser Firefox.


Rules

1. Adhere to the instance rules

2. Be kind to one another

3. Communicate in a civil manner


Reporting

If you would like to bring an issue to the moderators attention, please use the "Create Report" feature on the offending comment or post and it will be reviewed as time allows.


founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS