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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

I don't disagree in therory but there is no way we can let postal workers have a say in what they can or cannot deliver. Fire them for doing it and move on.

[-] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago

We should not fire people for standing up to fascism.

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

And the next postal worker who wont deliver a flyer on birth control or how to vote because its goes against what they believe? Should they not be fired for standing up for that? Their job is to deliver the mail not judge what someone receives. I get garbage in the mail all the time and know exactly what to do with it. I throw it in the trash.

[-] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 months ago

If Canada Post still wants it delivered, they can make that happen without requiring their workers to be exposed to hateful or discriminatory messages.

Last I checked, mail can be sent in envelopes.

[-] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago

This is not about personal belief, but who we are as a society. We should want to live in a society where the fundamental rights of people to exist should be upheld.

Gender affirming care is a collection of lifesaving medical treatments. A ban on gender affirming care would deny trans people the fundamental right to exist. We should make the same strategic decision this Canadian woman did when she refused to spread a targeted life-threatening disinformation campaign and instead defend life and liberty.

We should not tolerate intolerance. It's not enough to individually throw this away in the trash when a disinformation campaign could mislead the public into denying a group of people the fundamental right to exist.

Nor should we worry about what fascists would do. Fascists are bad-faith actors. Bad-faith actors will always attempt to infiltrate and upend systems and institutions for their own ends. Instead our efforts should go to preventing bad-faith actors, like fascists, from taking over our democracy. Stopping the spread of disinformation campaigns is part of how we do that.

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I will not tolerate a religious fool or some other kind nutbar deciding they don't have to deliver my mail because is offends them. As a result of that position I will not tolerate some morally justified person from doing the same no matter the reason. Fire anyone who can't do their job and leave their opinions at home.

[-] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

I will not tolerate a religious fool or some other kind nutbar deciding they don’t have to deliver my mail because is offends them.

Good, we should not tolerate intolerance.

As a result of that position I will not tolerate some morally justified person from doing the same no matter the reason.

This has nothing to do with morality. This is a strategic decision to defend life and liberty. We should defend ourselves and not be complicit in our own destruction.

Fire anyone who can’t do their job and leave their opinions at home.

Facts aren't opinions. We know gender affirming care is a collection of lifesaving medical treatments. A ban on gender affirming care would deny trans people the fundamental right to exist. Abortion is a lifesaving medical treatment. Bans on abortion denies people reproductive freedom.

We should not fire people who stand up to fascists. This November 5th, in the US, we will decide if we continue to be a democracy or will allow fascists to replace our democracy with a christo-fascist dictatorship. We should want people in positions of leadership and power to say no to fascists who attempt to subvert our democracy for their own ends.

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago
[-] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

I am joyful and hopeful because I love democracy. But it is ok to be sad.

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