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Exclusive: US to propose ban on Chinese software, hardware in connected vehicles, sources say (www.reuters.com)
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WASHINGTON, Sept 21 (Reuters) - The U.S. Commerce Department is expected on Monday to propose prohibiting Chinese software and hardware in connected and autonomous vehicles on American roads due to national security concerns, two sources told Reuters.

The Biden administration has raised serious concerns about the collection of data by Chinese companies on U.S. drivers and infrastructure as well as the potential foreign manipulation of vehicles connected to the internet and navigation systems.

The proposed regulation would ban the import and sale of vehicles from China with key communications or automated driving system software or hardware, said the two sources, who declined to be identified because the decision had not been publicly disclosed.

The move is a significant escalation in the United States' ongoing restrictions on Chinese vehicles, software and components. Last week, the Biden administration locked in steep tariff hikes on Chinese imports, including a 100% duty on electric vehicles as well as new hikes on EV batteries and key minerals.

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[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago

Nice to know Chinese EVs will be the choice for privacy-minded individuals in the US soon. Being cheaper than western brands is a nice big fat cherry on top.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

I think that's nice as long as people can jailbreak them.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org -5 points 2 months ago

I'm pretty sure anyone who believes that is quite misguided. tell me next that xiaomi phones and robot vacuums are privacy minded. we should also shift to wechat, right?

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

What's more dangerous for a US citizen? US companies forwarding info to local police (as facebook and google have and continue to do?), or another country with no such power doing that?

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm not a US citizen, neither of them are safe in any amount. Speaking of that, my country has ever increasing chinese influence, imported by our most corrupt goverment ever, along with loans that we will pay for decades, if not for longer. Chinese surveillance tech is appearing everywhere, like hundres of hikvision cameras.

I don't think I'm a minority here.

I also don't want to buy a Tesla ever, neither travel in one, and I'm pretty confident with today's climate that I won't ever have a car.
I dont want to travel to the US, but to china even less so.
The wrongdoings of the US does not make china any better of an option.

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

The prohibitions in question would include vehicles with certain bluetooth, satellite and wireless features as well as highly autonomous vehicles that could operate without a driver behind the wheel.

Chinese vehicles sold in the US would have the same internet connectivity as a base 2007 Honda Civic. Surveillance by the Chinese would be practically impossible with those limitations. You know who gets a pass on installing everything from internet connected cabin-facing cameras, accelerometers, microphones, and GPS tracking? US-based auto manufacturers!

That's right, they can and will take all the data they have about you and sell them to data brokers. Enjoy paying a higher insurance premium because you braked too hard one time. Did your shiny new GM's shitty drivetrain give out on you because their engineering is garbage and you want to claim the warranty for repairs? Too bad, you accelerated a little too hard that one time to get out of the way of a speeding truck and now they claim it was your bad driving that broke it.

I get you hate the CCP, most of us do (except the tankies here but they're a special case) but until we rein in the lazy and corrupt domestic vehicle industry it's gonna be a hard fight to get rid of Chinese vehicles encroaching on the market even with 100% tariffs.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 2 months ago

Chinese vehicles sold in the US would have the same internet connectivity as a base 2007 Honda Civic. Surveillance by the Chinese would be practically impossible with those limitations.

yeah sure, we all know the us government blocks trackers of the bloatware built into chinese smartphones, chinese network routers, and all other things. Except they don't.

Chinese vehicles sold in the US would have the same internet connectivity as a base 2007 Honda Civic.

I would even consider buying them, then. Honestly. It's increasingly hard to find such cars.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

Unironically yes, those are less likely to siphon your data to US letters agencies, and those are the ones you should be worried about, not China.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org -1 points 2 months ago

oh you absolutely have to be worried about china. I don't care specifically about anyone, and so I don't care specifically about the US. Everyone having this much access is dangerous

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