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[-] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Docker is spaghetti-ware, they try to control everything, which ironically makes me Isolate my dockers in a vm.

[-] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Ok, i'm glad my solution to the problem (run docker in an lxc container) isn't as harebrained as i thought

Other people are doing the same

[-] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Haven't done that, but honestly I'm thinking that's my next workflow.

[-] jecxjo@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago

That is kind of the expected setup. Either a vm or a dedicated system. You let docker do its thing and it should work.

I run lxc because i want contained systems I control. That just means I have to do the work too.

[-] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Same, I love lxc like I love jails, you craft beautiful systems that are isolated and clean.

I wouldn't make a disposable jail, but I make disposable lxcs, lxcs are like temporary distros for me.

[-] jecxjo@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago

There are scripts for making a jail around single apps but yeah I typically don't use them that way. Lxc I very often install an app I want to test out and toss once I want to dedicate compile time to it.

[-] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'd want a jail dockerfile system too, I just usually do them manually. Still, a way to run dockerfiles to build jails would be epic if you could make it work.

I used gentoo for a decade, I just can't afford the downtime if my workstation goes down, so it's debian with lxc workspaces for a while, but gentoo actually runs well under lxc.

Mostly every app expects its own distro, either debian or centos, few actually are agnostic, so getting them to run on gentoo was always more of a challenge than on raw debian/Ubuntu.

[-] jecxjo@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

I'm actually the opposite. Run gentoo as my host and toss up a debian lxc if needed. Worst case scenario im running just the kernel and everything else from a container (actually how i typically run when rebuilding a system from start).

I've never run into a situation where an app "couldn't" run in Gentoo. It's just that I've had cases where an app is build for a 8 year old LTS of debian with such old dependencies it wouldn't be worth my time building them all when i can just pull up a container with that super old build. The nice thing is that all the vulnerabilities that old Debian had is now in a container and less of a target.

I swear i must be lucky cuz i do often hear of gentpo fatigue but I've been running it since the project started and never had issues outside the things they legitimately broke.

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