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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by zinklog@lemmy.fmhy.ml to c/freemediaheckyeah@lemmy.fmhy.ml

Following the announcement by beehaw admins to defederate from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works, there has been many posts and messages regarding that decisions and what other instances will do.

I personally believe Lemmy/kbin can only thrive if there is a free flow of content between different instances, with instance admins taking a back seat and focusing more on the infrastructure and making sure the technical bugs are smoothened out. Community mods can moderate their communities, and users can block the communities they don't find appealing (there's even a toggle in settings to hide every NSFW post from your feed altogether).

We don't want to create walled gardens, nor do we want to make Lemmy more confusing than it already is for new users. We will not be defederating from any instance if there is even one good community on it that our instance users might find useful. So far we have only blocked lemmygrad.ml, and right now we have no plans to block anyone else.

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[-] JasSmith@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

This is not a matter of different point of view but a moderation one, since they are outnumbered for now with flow of new people and bad actors.

I don't agree. They appear to have a lot more moderators than kbin.social or lemmy.world. They didn't have any higher number of trolls. What they want is to remove more comments. Comments which they think offend people. This is all about a point of view. They want a safe space. An echo chamber. They want to be protected from diversity.

[-] Quetzacoatl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

which, by your argument, is also fine. let them be the safe space, and whoever doesn't want that, well just create an alt account literally anywhere else. it's not worth fussing over imho.

[-] ondoyant@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Beehaw has been pretty darn open about exactly why and under what circumstances they defederated. Try to be a little more charitable here. They're in open communication with the mods of both lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works as of now, and are trying to start development on more nuanced moderation tools. As far as I know, the intent is to refederate once things get figured out.

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