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this post was submitted on 26 Sep 2024
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You don't think the users contribute at all to the toxicity and it's all because of Zuckerberg, Musk, Dorsey etc.?
Then why is Lemmy filled with the exact same toxicity? Exhibit A: Comment by MedicPig below.
Feels like victim blaming the people who are currently being manipulated by algorithms which specfically draw people deeper and deeper into content designed to make them angry.
"It's your fault for being manipulated!" You scream at the top of your lungs. It's like when my state asks me to preserve water, but it barely regulates industrial water supply. Which is somewhere between 90 and 95% of total usage.
Maybe you are trying to treat a symptom, and maybe ignoring the direct cause is a bit of a problem.
Lemmy doesn't run any recommendation algorithms yet the problem still persists. I'd say it's an inherent feature of human nature which the algorithms just take advantage of.
Some of us are tired of watching gangs (ACAB), Nazis (Musk, Republicans), and other billionaires kill people or use their power to ruin people's lives for personal gain. I don't just say ACAB to be edgy or insulting. I truly mean it with the police force in its current state. Switching names like calling Musk, Mush is a bit too juvenile for me and is just there to be insulting. Sometimes someone will strike gold and I'll chuckle, but for the most part I think it draws from any actual point trying to be made. The more often something like ACAB is thrown out, the more people are going to see it, and it will effect some people, so it's not just wasted comments.
Sure, that doesn't mean they aren't encountering them elsewhere, very few people are on a single social media, very few people are not directly affected by the news cycle, it's all part of it.
Imo it's not worth acting like we're unaffected just cause we're here.
It's seems a bit ridiculous to suggest that the users themselves didn't have any role in it. I haven't claimed it's just them.
Yeah, hence my water use analogy.
It's not your claim I'm arguing against.
Oh I see, sorry! I'm so quick to try to have an argument.
The one ending with "have a nice day" ?