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good.
Now if only i could get IP people to realize that ukraine existed, maybe they could get the government to send those bombs to ukraine instead...
Cluster bombs dropped across the country will be killing people decades after the war is over.
https://www.csis.org/analysis/cluster-munitions-what-are-they-and-why-united-states-sending-them-ukraine
While everything to do with war is a varying amount of horrifying,
yeah, and so will russian landmines? Like, vastly more amounts of them will be vastly more problematic.
Cluster bombs are built to explode, in US cluster bombs, up to about 1% of them fail to detonate iirc. It's higher for russian bombs, upwards of 5% i think. Even if we're generous to cluster bombs, it's still just a tiny, tiny fraction of the probably hundreds of thousands of russian landmines that have been planted.
8 billion for Israel, $375 million for Ukraine
Since the start of the conflict it looks like we've given ukraine more than $100b in funding. (not all of it is direct) (since 2022)
Israel has received $300b, which is more, but only 3x more, and this is since 1946, the literal founding of israel. Covering spending for the last two fiscal years, it seems to only be about $20b since the october 7th attack, though that's a pretty rough figure.
in fact if we average these figures, $100b over 2 years is $50b a year, where as if we average the $300b over 78 years it's only about $3.8b a year. Though in the most recent funding package we have given israel $12b or so in marked funding, which is considerably higher. Still not $50b though.
https://www.csis.org/analysis/past-present-and-future-us-assistance-ukraine-deep-dive-data https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts
Thanks for doing the legwork on this.
nothing motivates more than disproving stupid things people say lol.
That's the internet and the broader scientific community at large for you.