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Ubisofts stock tanked this morning ahead of the markets opening (feddit.uk)

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[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Disgusting.

This isn't about being diverse. It's about making bad games.

As a matter of fact, the new assassin's Creed is so offensive that the Japanese government is in an uproar about it.

Ubisofts attempt to be so inclusive and sexually neutral is what's making their games bad because they're stifling good game design in the process.

That's not to say that it's not possible to make a good game while adhering to diversification and inclusion.

Hellblade and horizon zero Dawn are two excellent examples of incredibly good games that don't expound sexism. Hell, look at destiny 2. They handle these kinds of situations perfectly!

But to simply imply people are upset because they don't like "woke politics" is a gross over simplification of what's happening to Ubisoft!

[-] Odum@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

In response to the whole bit about the Japanese government, it seems that the quotes were taken way more seriously than they should have been. Pretty cookie cutter responses that also say that It isn't really their concern.

https://www.gamesradar.com/games/assassin-s-creed/assassins-creed-shadows-debate-somehow-reaches-japanese-government-ministries-who-reportedly-remind-everyone-that-historical-fiction-isnt-really-their-concern-at-all/

[-] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Neither of us said that people are ONLY upset because “woke politics”. Original comment is saying that those people are probably celebrating right now because they were “right” and I’m simply pointing out that whenever this happens, the anti-woke crowd think that it’s because of the woke politics. There are plethora of reason to be upset with Ubisoft, just like there were plethora of reasons to not play concord.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nah, the Japaneses government doesn't care about fictional characters in a videogame. Neither are French-Canadians mad about being depicted as mimes with bread sticks in South Park.

Oh and "it's about making bad games" . The GAME ISN'T EVEN OUT YET. Just don't buy it and stop crying because there's a black character in fictional universe or because you don't want to fuck the main protagonist of Star Wars game (I personally find here damn hot btw lol).

[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

They already delayed the release due to so much negative feedback. It's going to be a bad game. There should never have been a black person in this game at all. It's 1600s Japan. It makes no fucking sense!

There are so many layers as to why Ubisoft is going through what it's going through I don't have the energy to express it here in this comment.

I can assure you, however, if they worried more about making good games and less of inclusion politics their stock would be worth a lot more than 2 bucks!

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Why can't you people can't just fucking move on with you life and play other games? The fact that there's a new Assassin or Star Wars doesn't erase the previous ones, go play the previous ones, the "good" ones.

It’s going to be a bad game. Says who? Your just a rando on the internet who has not played the game, why do you think your opinion maters?

There should never have been a black person in this game at all. It’s 1600s Japan. It makes no fucking sense! IT'S A GAME, nothing makes fucking sens. Why do accept it when it's some white dude becoming the chosen one and saving a bunch of indigenous, but rip you shirt the when a black guy (based on a real life character!!!) is one of the protagonist of a game set in a FICTIONAL Japan. It's not real dude, people have the right can make up stories inspired by real things.

I don’t have the energy to express it here in this comment. Nobody ask you too lol. We all have youtube, if we want to hear some white dude's (with no expertise in nothing) ridiculous outrage about a stupid videogame company, we know where to find it.

I really don't get you gamers people. There are dozens of causes that are worth defending, why is the only fucking thing that makes you active is when there's a black man or a woman you don't feel like fucking in a game? That's pretty sad and pathetic if you ask me. Just go play something that fits you narrow world view. Meanwhile, Steam rips off all creators of 30% of their revenue while employing 20 people, but you people get wet whenever your hear their name. If you want to be mad at capitalist business, at least try to find something else than "black charcater" doesn't make sens in a universe where you can walk on walls and kill 20k people by yourself.

[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

So let's just address the meta here real quick. There was a comment on Lemmy to which I responded. In context the genesis of this comment is in reference to Ubisoft and the general state of inclusion politics in gaming today.

You are questioning the fundamental motivation as to why I have an opinion on the subject matter that is presented to me under the protest that "it's just a game".

I mean why even have an opinion? Why formulate thoughts? Why have any kind of discussions?

I am abreast of what is happening generally in gaming and the industry surrounding it because I'm interested in these things. I like playing video games.

I also have other interests. For example, I'm fairly good at playing the guitar, so there's a lot of content in my social media about guitars and music.

I also find it entertaining to watch flat Earth debunking videos on YouTube to pass the time.

The reason I care about assassin's Creed in particular is because I've been playing the game since the very first one. I like the franchise. I like the video games and watching it get ruined because of inclusion politics is heartbreaking.

Moreover, they already have the game. It's already been made. Therefore I have the right to criticize it. Simply stating "it's just a game" isn't helpful.

I don't care if there's black people or women or LGBT people in video games. I could absolutely care less about that as long as it's relevant to the game. If they're just including it to be inclusive, then it's a meaningless gesture. It brings down the game. It brings down the IP and it brings down the company that does it.

Furthermore, people play video games for a reason. Either it be escapism or immersion or simply to pass a small amount of time till whatever else they have to do. Seeing these inconsistencies in the game breaks that immersion it no longer becomes entertainment. It becomes a political statement which I have very little interest in when it comes to my entertainment.

You can pretend to be on your high horse all you want. I have no interest in seeing inclusion politics in my entertainment. It serves no beneficial purpose except to elevate the egos of people like you to make you feel as though something is being included.

Pure nonsense.

Also the new Star wars game which I don't even remember the name of sucked universally. It didn't make any money because people didn't have any interest in it specifically and exclusively because of the inclusion politics added into the game. Also the main character is fucking ugly.