310
Utterly fucking bizarre
(lemmy.world)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 26 Sep 2024
310 points (85.6% liked)
Political Memes
5424 readers
2159 users here now
Welcome to politcal memes!
These are our rules:
Be civil
Jokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.
No misinformation
Don’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.
Posts should be memes
Random pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.
No bots, spam or self-promotion
Follow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
My position is that intentionally attacking civilians with military force is indefensible. I don't know why that's suddenly popular on some corners of the online left.
I dispute that the Houthis are genuinely attempting to blockade Israel
I dispute that, even if they were, that their actions constitute in any way a viable way to blockade Israel
I dispute that, even if their blockade was successful, that it would meaningfully impact Israel's ongoing genocide, considering that most trade that passes through the area isn't going to Israel, and that the amount of trade that does pass through to Israel through Eilat is not nearly significant enough to damage their ongoing efforts, which are not exactly stymied by a lack of cars from China or a lack of diamonds from India.
I dispute that attacking civilians, a war crime, is morally acceptable. There are laws in the modern day, it's not the fucking Bronze Age.
so their actions are bad because you don't think they'll be effective? honestly, pressuring global trade has historically been a pretty good way of achieving goals in capitalism
again, sanctions on russia have definitely killed people
so you're fine with people dying, just so long as they do it from freezing to death in their homes rather than by direct military action?
Thanks for giving up the game and admitting that you support this not because it blockades under 10% of Israel's trade, but because it disrupts non-Israeli trade.
I'm sorry that the words 'attack' and 'war crime' mean nothing to you.
so, just to set a baseline here, are we agreed that
given that trade is definitionally between two separate parties, one of the countries in the equation has to not be israel
how can you stop israel from trading without impacting other countries?
tldr: the sanctions on russia also have an impact on global trade, so if this is your redline, you should be anti-sanctions
are you saying the blockade is different to sanctions because russia attacked ukraine and is committing war crimes?
i'm not sure if you've paid attention to things in israel recently
A desperate backtrack after giving up the game. Sorry that "Let's hurt trade between everyone we can, not just those trading with Israel" isn't what most people would regard as just.
Brush up on your English.
fucking christ can you stop wanking yourself off with rhetoric for 5 minutes and actually address something i'm saying? ta