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We haven't had a nuclear war yet!
Actually we did, 79 years ago.
A nuclear war definitely implies use of nuclear weapons on both sides. That was nuclear conquest, or nuclear terrorism.
Just slaughtering civilians in a country that was already willing to negotiate their surrender.
Japan wasn't exactly a bunch of saints when it came to slaughtering civilians.
Japanese civilians weren't exactly the ones doing the slaughtering. It's not like the nukes targeted a military target.
I was definitely talking about the nation of Japan and their military.
So? The nukes weren't dropped on he military. They just slaughtered civilians.
Willing to negotiate a surrender favourable to them, sure.
Willing to negotiate a surrender that wouldn't force them to become a conquest of the US. They just wanted to keep their own government. The US refused, it wanted unconditional surrender and total control of Japan.
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And yet, despite stockpiling weapons for the next eight decades, never again.
Maybe that'll change in the next decade, but hopefully we can keep 1945 as the last year nuclear weapons were used for a bit longer.
Well. Right now, putin is in an unwinable war. He CAN'T win given his lack of superior quality war machines and materials. His lack of combat experienced military personel, and his lack of air defenses. They're losing literal thousands of personel (mostly soldiers) every single day.
If putin loses, he dies. He will be forcefully removed from his position and executed. He knows this. The united states knows this. Everybody in the situation knows this. Which is why for a very long time, nobody would allow Ukraine to use their weapons deep into russia in an effort to curb escalation. Because back against the wall, with no other possibility for winning the war, putin is going to eventually use nukes. He's going to use nukes when it's a situation of "fuck it, I'm going to die anyways. Nuke em."
And as each day passes, russia gets further and further into a state of permanent national destability. This war is going to harm them for generations. Even before the war, they hadn't replenished their population to pre-WWII levels. This is on-par with that. That should give you an idea of how badly this is going to damage their next 40 years. Hundreds of thousands of young men all dead. And eventually, russia will run out of men to send to the war. That's when putin pushes the button. He's going to nuke Ukraine. Probably Kiev. And it will happen before this war is over. Unlike hitler just killing himself and his wife, putin is going to try to take everybody down with him. Because that's how big his ego is.
Only question is......does he ONLY fire at Kiev? Does he just go balls out and nuke everybody instead? Scorched earth kind of thing.
Only time will tell. If we live to tell the tale.
Putin can feasibly last until the West loses interest and stops supporting Ukraine, which with Trump that's highly likely. Alternatively, Israel starts so much trouble the US is forced to prioritize and can't afford to support Ukraine anymore.
And of course, Russia simply has more people than Ukraine. The most morbid possibility is the war lasts until Ukraine runs out of bodies.