I think it was something I'd been told beforehand, but it wasn't filed away correctly. For me, the Holocaust was always a tragedy. Such a massive loss of human lives will always be a tragedy. In that regard, I didn't see it as more of a tragedy because secular Jews were caught up in the mix. It's a tragedy because any life was caught up in the mix. But I also feel the Trans-atlantic Slave Trade is a tragedy and we continue to feel and reap the rewards of that to this very day, where there's a bunch of people that don't even realise Africa is a continent.