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I can tell you, and everyone else, that you're lying, because it's clear that you are. What you say, and what you do, is consistent with people that are religious conservatives, not with people that are actually leftists, or Satanists. I can say that what you say you believe is not what you actually believe, because you haven't yet acted in a way that's consistent with your claims.
Uh huh. And I'm sure that your posting about transracialism and apparent support of it has nothing to do with white people raised in white families trying to erase ethnic and cultural identities by claiming them as their own, right? And I'm sure that you don't mean it as a very thinly veiled attempt to refute the existence of transgender and gender-queer people either, right?
Oh, and hey, you entirely failed to address your red-pill community.
Yeah, no. You choose whether or not you adhere to a religion. If you don't want to be Mormon, you can send a notarized letter to the records department in SLC and have your name removed from their records. Or you can choose to publicly do things that will get you excommunicated, like advocating for protecting children from sexual predators (like, say Sam Young did). If you don't want to be tarred with that brush, then stop being Mormon.
The entire Mormon religion is a rotten religion, and it was started by a con man. Anyone that knows this, or has the ability to learn it, and still follows the con deserves condemnation. The information is out there for anyone that truly has an open mind, which is why Mormon leaders keep telling members not to read any sources that aren't approved by the Mormon church. How's that quote from Dalin Oaks go? Something about how things that are true, but not faith-affirming, aren't useful?
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Meh, feel free to belive what you want, but you are totally wrong on every point. Thank you! :)
Can you explain why Mormonism is bad, then? You should be willing to drag the religion through the mud, right? Since the only reason to leave Mormonism is because you realize how horrible it is.
I'm happy to explain, although it's a like drinking from a high-pressure firehose. So much of this isn't going to make sense to anyone that wasn't raised Mormon. There's so much cultural garbage going on in Mormonism that people outside of it simply don't have a frame of reference for to make sense of it. If you really want to get an idea, I'd suggest the Mormon Stories podcast, by Dr. John Dehlin, which is currently clocking in at 1951 (!!!) episodes, averaging a little over two hours each.
I'm not going to deal with their Truth (capitalization intentional) claims in depth; those have already been adequately covered by Jeremy Runnels, among many, many others. It's very, very clear, once you start digging, that all of the Mormon ~~church~~ cult Truth claims are complete hogwash, and rely on feelings rather than any factual basis at all.
Okay, but, lots of religions make bullshit claims, right? That, by itself, shouldn't necessarily make a religion awful, right?
Fair enough. So lets move on to the meat and potatoes of what really makes the Mormon ~~church~~ cult bad; they exert undue authoritarian control over their members. I'm going to use Steven Hassan's BITE model here, and go through each salient point. Again, this is a lot, so buckle up, buttercup. Keep in mind that a lot of this isn't doctrine, but it is dogmatic practice, and is supported and encouraged by leadership at the highest levels.
Preface all of this with the understanding that the Mormon ~~church~~ cult believes that attending Mormon temples is a requirement for salvation.
This is going to take me a few hours to get through, so I'm going to come back to it when I have time.
I've never said it was bad. And I have no desire to talk about religion in a political news community. If you wanna take the convo to one of my BYU communities, then cool. Here, no.
Thank you!
That is a damning non-answer.
I'd be happy to answer any question you have about my religious beliefs if you post to one of my BYU communities. Or if you would like it to be private, then you can DM me.
But I won't be answering questions about my religious beliefs in this political news community. No matter how many times or how many ways you or anyone else asks.
If you want an answer, comment there or DM. If you don't want an answer, then that's fine too. Let me know if you need a link or you can just look in my profile.
Thank you!