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[-] 7fb2adfb45bafcc01c80@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

how do you expect an archive to happen if they are not allowed to archive while it is still up.

I don't want them publishing their archive while it's up. If they archive but don't republish while the site exists then there's less damage.

I support the concept of archiving and screenshotting. I have my own linkwarden server set up and I use it all the time.

But I don't republish anything that I archive because that dilutes the value of the original creator.

[-] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

What if I'm looking for something but the page has changed?

[-] 7fb2adfb45bafcc01c80@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago

Shouldn't that be the content creator's prerogative? What if the content had a significant error? What if they removed the page because of a request from someone living in the EU requested it under their laws? What if the page was edited because someone accidentally made their address and phone number public in a forum post?

[-] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago

Nah. It just lets slimy gits claim they never said XYZ, or that such and such a thing never happened. With as volatile a storage media as internet media, hard backups are absolutely necessary. Put it this way; would you have the same complaimt about a newspaper? A TV show? Post your opinion piece to a newspaper and it's fixed in ink forever. Yet somehow you complain when that same opinion piece is on a website? Get outta here.

[-] 7fb2adfb45bafcc01c80@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Like I said, I have no problems with individuals archiving it and not republishing it.

If I take a newspaper article and republish it on my site I guarantee you I will get a takedown notice. That will be especially true if I start linking to my copy as the canonical source from places like Wikipedia.

It's a fine line. Is archive.org a library (wasn't there a court case about this recently...) or are they republishing?

Either way, it doesn't matter for me any more. The pages are gone from the archive, and they won't archive any more.

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