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[-] ModestMeme@lemm.ee 36 points 1 month ago

You wanna change the Democratic Party? Maybe vote more than once every four years. State and local elections have garbage turnouts and this is where right wingers shore up their power (because they ALWATS vote). You need to vote every election, always. You want left leaning Democrats in office? Their careers start small, at the local and state level. Vote for them there and support them as they gain experience and reputation.

But this griping about the electoral process and lack of choices in a national election is just lazy bullsh*t. Yes, a vote for anyone other than Harris is a vote for Trump at this point.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

When do you think the last fair Dem presidential primary happened?

Every progressive I know votes in every election from dog catcher to president, but with how deregulated campaign finance laws are, how is a candidate going to compete in a non presidential year when corporations and foreign governments donate millions in the primary to the neoliberal?

Then if they do win the primary, they have to be at the Republican getting the same money, and the DNC and state parties don't support them because they also take the same money?

Like, I get what you tried to say and I wish it was that fucking easy.

But it's not as long as money is free speech. We can't change that until we demand the party stops taking that money in primaries against other Dems, and backs progressive candidates that make it to the general like they back moderates.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth -2 points 1 month ago

So is a vote for anyone other than trump a vote for Harris?

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

No. There are less Republican voters. That's why a non/3rd party vote benefits Trump more than Harris.

this post was submitted on 12 Oct 2024
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