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Struggle session: people here need to stop calling for "unlimited genocide on the first world" (hexbear.net)

submitted 1 month ago by Thallo@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

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I shouldn't have to say this on a """communist""" forum, but here we are. Calling for unlimited genocide on the first world (lmao point out the "first world" on a map, I'll wait) is obviously reactionary on top of being idealist.

The idea that anything can be "unlimited" is pure capitalist decadence based on its foundational need for unlimited growth.

Any real socialist should be calling for a genocide that has its resources planned and allocated by a People's Genocide Committee and is then executed over five years. The genocide would be limited in both resource and geography, and thus, be a materialist genocide.

Or, even better, they might consider a means-tested genocide.

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[-] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

True, can't claim I've seen those posts (haven't been on Hexbear that long either, came from the grad) but I suppose they exist. And it is a good point that people with not enough self-awareness (or who just have had enough at a moment) will take those jokes and maybe run with it- not that they can or will do anything with it unlike the reverse, but it is an issue.

I know of that Zionist you're talking about and- well, yeah, it was unjustified as such wholly indiscriminate attacks always are. In their specific case and that of anyone who'd have survived what they did I can't quite blame them for feeling or even acting that way (though they had to be stopped). Feeling the sheer amount of anger and even hate is a natural human response when seeing the west behaving like the west always has, even without experiences comparable to theirs (granted theirs were very extreme) I find myself feeling such things and often consciously reel myself back sometimes and control my words well (and try and generally succeed, minus bitterness, with my thoughts), and certainly don't let it affect how I treat or see individuals.

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

True, can't claim I've seen those posts (haven't been on Hexbear that long either, came from the grad) but I suppose they exist

Yeah I've been on here way too much for way too long. It's been a while since I've seen it too. People seem to have cooled off a bit after federation.

I know of that Zionist you're talking about and- well, yeah, it was unjustified as such wholly indiscriminate attacks always are. In their specific case and that of anyone who'd have survived what they did I can't quite blame them for feeling or even acting that way (though they had to be stopped). Feeling the sheer amount of anger and even hate is a natural human response when seeing the west behaving like the west always has, even without experiences comparable to theirs (granted theirs were very extreme) I find myself feeling such things and often consciously reel myself back sometimes and control my words well (and try and generally succeed, minus bitterness, with my thoughts), and certainly don't let it affect how I treat or see individuals.

I completely relate and agree. People were calling for it now though, which was wack. They were also arguing that it would have been right to do, not as in understandable or even justified, but as the morally correct thing to do. It's been a long while though. I still see some people do these things unironically once in a blue moon, but the site culture has thankfully changed to one that calls it out instead of cheers it on - most of the time.