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submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by Red_Scare@lemmygrad.ml to c/worldnews@lemmygrad.ml

TL;DR: In a plot to destabilize the EU, Putin and Lukashenko personally and directly caused masses of people to migrate from the Middle East, Asia, and Africa, so Poland won't observe the legal right of asylum anymore. They also decriminalised shooting migrants "in self defence".

(Edit) This is from the new, supposedly less fascist Polish govt lol

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[-] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

directing the flow of migrants towards the European Union in a bid to destabilise the bloc

What happened to "refugees welcome" and "diversity is our strength"? Oh right, that was at a time when EU's core was booming because of cheap Russian gas, labour power was needed both to run the new industries and to replace the people emigrating from the EU periphery to the core. Now the cheap Russian gas is gone and people are realising that being an internal EU migrant isn't all that it's cracked up to be on account of racism. Now all of a sudden Fortress Evropa must be protected.

edit: mixed up some names

[-] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

Fingers crossed- admittedly while I of course am on the opposite side of these racists, hopefully someday they shall wake up and find themselves minorities or only minor majorities in their countries. inshallah not because it is "racially better/superior," but because the diminishing of the cores in this aspect can only ever be a good thing and I'm all for it (and karma is hilarious)

Serves them right for having such a weak, pathetic, and completely artificial concept of """whiteness""" which falls into chaos when their cartoonishly strict "phenotype" is deviated from, or when someone is Muslim, etc...

[-] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Serves them right for

selling off their countries' wealth and sovereignty to the US. How can one talk about "European states" when they have all become or are in the process of becoming identical neoliberal shitholes with some minor aesthetic differences.

It will never not be funny how Yugoslavia "erased" nationalities within it by checks notes having strong industries in every republic, allowing freedom of religion and proclaiming one's nationality, protecting languages, producing national media and culture, and actually celebrating diversity with "brothethood and unity" domestically and actual internationalism (international cooperation of different but equal cultures/countries/nations) on the global stage.

Much better now, after "independence": virtually no exports, laws written by Bruxelles, media comes from US, food comes from S. America, electronics come from China, kids spend more time learning English and German than their own language, dreaming of the day they can leave and never look back.

EU is a failed project and I can't wait for its demise.

[-] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

Wholly agree, but my comment was in regards to the fears of "white replacement/etc" in Europe. Your description of how it was in Yugoslavia is a great example of what true diversity and civilization is supposed to be IMO- in comparison to the western notion of the ethno-state (or white nation-state) and where they reject the end result of people and cultures intermingling (ie. how ridiculous """white genocide""" by... miscegenation, immigration, etc is). Yugoslavia was how it should be, and what I described in my prior comment is how the west divided, conquered, and carved up the nation IMO.

[-] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I know, I was tying onto this part:

for having such a weak, pathetic, and completely artificial concept of “”“whiteness”“”

I took "whiteness" to also mean "European culture" or more accurately "Central, Western and Northern European culture", because I think a lot of people see it that way, a culture they traded for dollars and a box set of Friends. So now all they have left, as you said is "a weak, pathetic, and completely artificial concept of whiteness", where people of vaguely Anglo/Northern European descent are the "whites" and everyone else is "other". "White culture" then becomes anything those people consume, regardless of how close or how far it is from historically European culture.

The nazis can't even agree on whether Christianity or Paganism is the trve whvte relvgvon. Are we defending the Pagans against the Abrahamic religions or are we defending the Christians against the Pagan and Muslim religions? The media called Ukrainians "white, Europeans" but then the Russians are "subhuman orcs". None of it makes any sense, and I don't think it is supposed to. It's just another form of control.

[-] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

Couldn't agree more to everything you said.

I think a lot of people see it that way, a culture they traded for dollars and a box set of Friends

And when you put it that way, oof. Not white but my parents traded much of theirs off for the bible and that didn't turn out well (as an understatement). Europe and the west will be spending a long time recovering, or trying to recover, from the "whiteness" they inflicted on themselves.

As someone whose partner is white I think I understand them a bit better seeing your comment as well. For me even if I wasn't raised in it and reconnecting with it is something I'll be doing all my life as a result, the identity and pride in it has always been strong (thanks to being a minority- the choice is either pride or shame IMO). I've often thought being white and having such easy assimilation must be both a blessing and a curse- but seeing you put it that way makes it sound even more wretched yet.

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