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Things went super well for sovcit.
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For a non US person this was unintelligible. I guess the took his car and he sent some paperwork sayin "it's mine give it back because I said so" and the others said "the fuck are ya talking bout?"
For US people it is also unintelligible.
I understood some of what they're talking about. Like the SEC and CFPB are government entities I'm aware of.
UCC is Uniform Commercial Code.
It’s turning into the Uniquely Comical Code with these idiots
Ah ok, how come you have all the conspirasionist wierdos?
Lack of education, social programs, taxing the rich, as well as a preponderance of corporate influence in politics even compared to other developed nations.
As I understand it, SovCits think there is this magical pool of money the government is keeping for everyone (for some nefarious purpose I don't understand), so they think they can get out off paying any debt they owe by sending some combination of paperwork that, in effect, says bill the government and have them pay it from the magic money pool. He sent, what I'm guessing is supposed to be, a bill of exchange saying bill the government. And included language that said if you don't respond that you are doing this within 3 days, the debt will be discharged and I owe you nothing. Because SovCits think they can just write things like that and they are automatically legally binding. The company ignored his nonsense and said pay us our money, so he filed a bunch of complaints with different organizations (SEC, CFPB). And despite all his flawless paperwork, the company ultimately took the car back.
They took the car back and the BoE. In the sovcit's mind, they took the car and the legal means to still pull that money out of their estate. So effectively they took the money and the asset in his eyes.
First they sent the lender some form that they didn't understand, claiming that the form itself was sufficient payment for the loaned they'd agreed to pay. The lender sent back a letter that probably said something like "no, you have to pay us real money like we agreed to" and the person responded with more forms that they don't understand instead of paying their bills.
This very predictably led to their car being repoed, since they weren't paying the loan, because they have been lied to by the people in this FB group who think notaries (people who have been licensed to confirm "this was signed by the person who's name is on the the page") and certified mail (the post office got a signature from someone to prove it was delivered, nothing else) have magic powers to make a document legally binding.
The entire idea is based on the self-contradictory argument that laws can only apply to YOU if you consent to them, but any and every oddly worded clause from any law or court decision, from anywhere and any time in the past, binds everyone else, as long as you know the right magic words to invoke.
As a US person this was unintelligible.
That's it in a nutshell.
Here's a video that explains their deal. It gets fucking wild.
Oh new rabbit hole unlocked
I like the hard to understand ones because I treat them like an English test, like I have to discover the hidden meaning behind the madness
Surprise Munecat!
But jokes aside, it is an excellent video (as usual from her).
For an American it's pretty goddamn unintelligible too.