281
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 14 Oct 2024
281 points (97.3% liked)
News
23406 readers
2005 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Yeah, that's the thing that stands out for me too. 19 freaking times. Over and over. Horrible.
It’s unclear to me why people are downvoting you here.
Well it's the fact that she did this as an untreated mentally ill 12 year old, and now they have a decade of treatment under their belt. The request actually contains a request to be assessed by an expert.
If she hasn't been assessed there's no reason not to assess her now that she's requested it.
There is a link in the article to an earlier article that covers her 1st request, in which there was an assessment:
Yeah, it's not clear if they were the court appointed psychiatrist and if they assembled a report like the law requires. If they did, and the judge ignored it and their testimony he's being a shitbird.
Agree that the expert testimony should be included in the posted article!
I found this article from when the trial was in progress, which includes the testimony for the second request:
https://apnews.com/article/slender-man-girl-stabbed-psychiatric-hospital-6ab1ab144b58540ece9d5b2531833f75
People downvoted them, as best I can tell, for saying that being stabbed 19 times is “horrible”.
Right, it's obvious that it's horrible, it's tone deaf to harp on it when she's been incarcerated for a decade.
Got it, you’re an apologist.
No, I want to have patients assessed for release like the law requires and actually have the system do something more than abuse people.
Gonna need more that empty platitudes. Explain what you think is wrong here v which specific laws and processes are not being followed, who is responsible, and what is the remedy? Also why are you rooting for a confirmed attempted murderer? This really comes across as hero worship.
No, I want to understand without anyone getting emotional or making it personal precisely what they think the problem is. All I get from people is a vague reference to age and the passage of time.
The point of a system like this is to in theory rehabilitate people so that one day they can return to society.
The system is failing here to do that despite several professionals in their field saying she is capable of returning to the community.
It's easy to vilify someone when you make up and attribute things to them that they didn't say. Not sure how making this personal helps, but it sure does say something about you.
It's easy to villify someone when they...
*Checks notes*
...want to imprison another person for life who has not been convicted of any crime.
So you see how it’s bad to put straw men in people’s mouth because of a situation they have nothing to do with.
She was fucking 12 and not mentally able, shesbeen in jail for ten years, yeah lets check her out. I swear shes been in jail longer then others and you think thats juuuuust fine right.
I don’t think anything because I don’t know the details and neither do you.
You don't know the details, but you'll call anyone who argues against keeping this person involuntarily committed for the rest of their life an "apologist".
Sounds like you just worship the U.S. "justice system", and get off on seeing people ruined by it, regardless of what's justified.
That's the point dude.
And yet you and others keep on like you do know what's going on, "dude".
No dude i don't. Again thats the point of her Being re-evaluated.
She was found not guilty. Why do you want to punish the innocent?
Not guilty is not the same as innocent. She was not guilty due to insanity but she still committed the act.
She was found not guilty because she was twelve. Not because she didn’t attempt to murder that person.
it doesn't seem like you're able or willing to get it tbh
This isn’t Brittany Spears. This is someone who lured a victim and attempted to murder her.
Do you remember how fucking stupid 12 year olds are?
Now add untreated mental illness to it. Keeping her locked up is nothing but cruel.
Stabbing someone 19 times is horrible, but it is immaterial a decade later in determining whether or not that person requires psychiatric care. We know why she's in there, but the legal system is saying she should continue being there even when nurses and the director of the psych hospital all say that she doesn't require further involuntary commitment.
She was found Not Guilty by reason of insanity. If the psych hospital she's been confined to for the past decade says she's ready for supervised release, keeping her there as a punishment is flat-out unconstitutional.
This sounds like your first injustice. In fact, people are quite commonly held back for years or decades after their sentences for stuff like this. It suck, it really does. You have to vote/get involved if you want to change it.