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How much more productive does an archive need to be? Hire human beings. Celebrate fucking humanity.
My partner is an archivist, and we've talked about AI a lot.
Most people in their field hate this shit because it undermines so much of what matters in their jobs. Accuracy is critical, and the presentation of the archive requires humans that understand it. History is complex, requires context and nuance, and understanding of basic ideas and concepts.
Using "AI" to parse and present the contents of the archive pollutes it, and gives the presentation over to software that can't possibly begin to understand the questions or the answers.
There are more than enough technological advantages in this field to help with digital archiving, adding LLM doesn't help anything.
Working isn't a celebration of humanity.
Productivity is not the enemy, our economic systems which takes all the benefits of higher productivity and gives it to small percentage is.
This has nothing to do with economics. It's the national archive, not a business.
Productivity is irrelevant here. A big part of archiving is accuracy and presentation. All of which should be done by human beings. Period.
Currently, maybe. But technology is fantastic at accuracy, better than humans in many regards. Gemini might have a way to go before it gets there, but it or its successors will get there and it's moving fast.
I'm not sure it is. Productivity also refers to efficiency of services. If AI can make the services of the National Archives more productive for its staff and/or the public then surely that's a good thing?
That word is carrying a mighty big load.
This isn't about "technology", it's about large language models, which are neither "fantastic at accuracy" or "better than humans".
Large language models are structurally incapable of "getting there", because they are models of language, not models of thought.
And besides, anything that is smart enough to "get there" deserves human rights and fair compensation for the work they do, defeating the purpose of "AI" as an industry.
The word "If" is papering over a number of sins here.
Should we also insist that archives dont use photocopiers and instead have scribes copy everything by hand?
If the photocopier is smart enough to do a scribe's job then it deserves human rights, fair wages, and a pension just like the rest of us.
Given that photocopiers can do a scribes job (copy the text on this page onto a new page), more quickly and accurately to boot, I presume you are part of a pressure group to pay them pensions.
That's not a scribe's job, that's not even the entirety of an apprentice scribe's job (which also includes making paper, making ink, bookbinding, etc.)
A scribe's job is to perform secretarial and administrative duties, everything from record-keeping and library management to the dictation and distribution of memoranda.
A photocopier is not capable of those things, but if it was then it'd be deserving of the same compensation and legal status afforded to the humans that currently do it.
We have to start treating things that claim to be "AI" as deserving of human rights, or else things are going to get very ugly once it's possible to emulate scanned human brains in silicon.