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https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2021/06/how-the-fossil-fuel-industry-convinced-americans-to-love-gas-stoves/

Surveys showed that most people had no preference for gas water heaters and furnaces over electric ones. So the gas companies found a different appliance to focus on. For decades, sleek industry campaigns have portrayed gas stoves [...] as a coveted symbol of class and sophistication

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The sales pitches worked. The prevalence of gas stoves in new single-family American homes climbed from less than 30 percent during the 1970s to about 50 percent in 2019.

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Beginning in the 1990s, the industry faced a new challenge: mounting evidence that burning gas indoors can contribute to serious health problems. [...]

Cooking is the No. 1 way you’re polluting your home.

https://archive.ph/Aiyd2

You have more control over temperature on an induction cooktop than you have with a gas cooktop, but there is a learning curve. Samsung induction cooktops show a blue "virtual flame", which can help a new user visualize the amount of heat going to the pan.

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[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

Ah yes, instead of getting a gas stove for when the power goes out in an ice storm or blizzard for 24 hours several times a year I should instead simply nationalize my power grid and also make it immune from the effects of trees falling on power lines.

That's a way easier and more reasonable suggestion than turning on my vent fan when I cook.

Also lol at the people saying "if thenpower goes out just order takeout"

Oh yea why don't I just order takeout from the restaurant 10 miles away that's unreachable because of a blizzard and also doesn't have power.

[-] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 month ago

I get ice storms, blizzards, or several feet of snow in a single night. Idk, sounds like your local utility has a skill issue bud.

I've literally never owned a gas stove lmao

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Love how everytime something is discussed (specially bike lanes) all Alaskans came to argue that it's actually a bad idea because of the 365 days of ice storm they had to live with.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And I love how if somebody says "actually we lose power into winter storms so a gas stove is handy so i can cook food for my family when we lose power" the reaction form all my friendly comrades is to call it a skill issue and make outlandish assumptions like I live in Alaska lol.

[-] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago

The best part is that a gasoline generator would be a better solution all around. Powers your refrigerator, charges your devices, and can power an electric stove (yes, at 240 volts). And then when you don't need it, you can put it away and not worry about carbon monoxide and carbon particulate in your living space.

If you live in an apartment and can't use a generator, then you live somewhere dense enough that you can get takeout.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

We literally have a gas generator. A large one for an individual house. It powers our water heater furnace and the outlets and lights in the kitchen (not our fridge since if thenpower goes out in thenwinter we can moce stuff outnto the porch. If it also had to power the stove we we'd have to eliminate one of those other things or spend 20k on a permanently installed generac.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Good for you. Idk what to tell you we lose power occasionally. I'm not aware of any municipality that can keep the power on when a tree snaps a power line but congrats on living somewhere thats managed to defy nature.

Either that or the storms you get aren't actually nearly as bad as the ones I, or the millions of other people that have power outages from winter storms every year, get. Sorry I can't personally maintain an entire power grid in a rural mountainous area, if that's my skill issue my bad I guess.

Again you saying "well I never lose power" isn't really a counter argument to me saying it's useful when we lose power.

Where do you live that you never lose power despite regularly experiencing major winter storms?

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